Stacy Summary: Max Keiser on the middle class. h/t @Mirrormirror
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Thoughts on Getting Prepared:
I’ve spent a lot of time reading about and trying to get prepared for ‘anything’ that might happen; gold, silver, ammo, food,… I even have a manual desalination unit (I live 2 miles from the ocean). But it’s futile – one can never prepare for every outcome. The best thing a person can do is educate friends, family and neighbors so that if a community or neighborhood cooperates, one family may have extra toilet paper while the other family may have extra canned beans. We are not going to make it on our own; we are going to have to cooperate and work together after a re-boot.
Another way a person will be able to contribute is by having extra skills in (for example) neighborhood farming, tanning, candle making, bee keeping, mechanics, carpentry, etc. In other words, we all need to have additional skills. Learn more, educate those in your circles and pass along the Max Keiser info/videos. A good starting point for learning about WHY a re-boot is coming, click on the “Watch the Crash Course” at http://www.chrismartenson.com/ and then watch Fiat Empire (google it and watch the 58 minute version).
Pearls!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S327F_LRiek
Snoot guess I am to wedded the material
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/000Images/him/hephaestus0536.jpg&imgrefurl=http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/M/Erika.D.Mitchell-Deluca-1/HephaestusandAphrodite.html&usg=__aZdGPglsrea7rRQWWazCUIsBc6Y=&h=480&w=595&sz=91&hl=en&start=3&zoom=1&tbnid=6PjaLJuUsAwYTM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHephaestus%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1
you are maybe correct I was cast out the nest before I could sing or fly…or maybe I suffered a great FALL many eons ago…professing all the way down “you had no right” but Milton took great liberty with the translation…or maybe I was just cast down because daddy didn’t like his scared son so I toil endlessly and share my muse with a violent g-d
I don’t know….so much depends on a red wagon
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15537
I likes em simple
chArles:
You’ll like this:
“It is like what we imagine knowledge to be:
dark, salt, clear, moving, utterly free,
drawn from the cold hard mouth
of the world, derived from the rocky breasts
forever, flowing and drawn, and since
our knowledge is historical, flowing, and flown.”
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15209
Bishop always takes us to the edge, but she never makes one jump! I’m afraid I’m a mite pushy!
@chArky:
What? Have a crick in the old spine? Wonder has nothing to do with your bank deposits! These riddles I’m mentioning have their voice in the Old English tales which must have been sung somewhere by some songbird in your family tree. Don’t tell me you were pushed out of the nest without wings!
@ Snoot
“Narrative is spoken by nature: do you wonder if her voice finds relevance amongst the many?”
alas I still hear the siren song of the Enlightenment Project to readily…Nature is humanity’s construct, “mAn is to eternally remain the measure of all things” if I were to hear her song I must confess I do so only as “the many given rise to her voice”…as the old Prussian witchdoctor turn History into the PROJECT-ion of absolute Idea into a material form to be shackled for eternity in order to gain some substance a moment of permanece that is the sad song I have come to hear.
@ Faulkner brackets Rosa Coldfield by denying her both authority and origin. “and the voice not ceasing but vanishing into and then out of long intervals like a stream, a trickle running from patch to patch of dried sand” (pg 4)
ok..ok…ok… Faulkner tain’t that bad on a good day…but that was my original point…ole Masser Charlie’s voice denies the great multitude their “authority and origin”…unless we pick up ole Masser Charlie tools and burn his house down…none of the songbirds in the field will be heard
@ Why do we assume time captures sound in a net? Who can truly place voice with authority and origin? Your dominion of voice carries little place outside the dominion of time.
Snoot dear…I am just ensnared in old Indrid’s net to deeply…while on ideal level one has merit in denying the legitmacy of “authoirity and origin” to assert dominance of any of humanity’s little narritives that is frakensence of where {“WE”} would like to be, yet stuck in the dung those sentiment loose their purfume
chArles;
Faulkner brackets Rosa Coldfield by denying her both authority and origin. It is within the context of this bracketing that he writes:
“and the voice not ceasing but vanishing into and then out of long intervals like a stream, a trickle running from patch to patch of dried sand” (pg 4)
There have been so many interpretations of this passage, but one quite interesting here:
http://liminalities.net/3-3/soundintro.htm
Elizabeth Bishop caught this essence in her poem about Florida:
http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/florida/
“The alligator, who has five distinct calls:
friendliness, love, mating, war, and a warning–
whimpers and speaks in the throat
of the Indian Princess.”
Why do we assume time captures sound in a net? Who can truly place voice with authority and origin? Your dominion of voice carries little place outside the dominion of time.
And it this dominion, that of light and of time, that we see coming to an end. Because both entities are never controlled by mere words.
Nicely said, chArles.
There are many voices, and the “truth” [as I see it] is that no one voice is known for dominance. Deeds done are tied to voice, true, but voice itself knows no ties. Narrative is spoken by nature: do you wonder if her voice finds relevance amongst the many?
I wonder if Walmart is selling brackets cheap? Here’s Faulkner’s take on voice (and forgive me if I make you feel like you’re back in the fourth-grade!):
“Then hearing would reconcile and he would seem to listen to two separate Quentin’s now – the Quentin Compson preparing for Harvard in the South, the deep South dead since 1865 and peopled with garrulous outraged baffled ghosts, listening, having to listen, to one of the ghosts which had refused to lie still even longer than most had, telling him about old ghost-times; and the Quentin Compson who was still too young to deserve yet to be a ghost but nevertheless having to be one for all that, since he was born and bred in the deep South the same as she was. . . (pp. 4-5)”
@ Snoot
at work so this will be more incoherant than normal, as I rebel against syntax and spelling
“Substance being what it is, one can’t deny that the wood is all from the very same tree.”
I would tend to agree with this statement
as to this
“Words, which you insist are inherently laden with nominal consistency, are not subject to constraints indicated by their human allies.”
uhmmm if I have left the impression that Language is stable please devoid yourself of this notion…it’s an intagable mess, that is exceeding interdependant…no meaning can be garnered from isolation but only in it’s relation to others…that is why I find ole Hurseul little {—} so inpratical…I don’t believe you can retain that point of objectivity…and it just isn’t the inability to bracket out the construct of “I”….but my close friends would say maybe this is sour grapes because old Hursseul destroyed my precious psychologism which I had grown found of as a child
the criticism I put forth is that while the narrative being constructed as it is is instable, and a myriad of voices give rise to different songs, one Voice is dominant and that must be recognized and dealt with….but this is the standard criticism of modern mArxist like Jameson against deconstruction…I like the unleashing of anarky as much as the next Po-Mo but I believe failure to adress the dominant voice results in one million dead Iraqis….or millions of under feed children who will never get to search for pearls amougst the dung of culture
I’ll join the good fight – Let’s do it.
Protestantism is the southern euphemism for bastard, chArles. One uses relative terms, but the effect is reminiscent of the old scions. Did they take root and branch to bear fruit?
One wonders if these very branches are that [thing] over which those men, whose arrogance maintains a steady trade, will trip.
Substance being what it is, one can’t deny that the wood is all from the very same tree.
@ Snoot
‘gods’ are constructs of some social casting, but that light is not. Indeed, light here seems to controlled by some other, an ideal or entity.
I would argue the light is just the idealized absolute projection of Man/Woman, more keeping in line what ole Feuerbach made of Hegel’s absolute idea/G-d
I believe we as a species encounters the world differently dependent upon the state of our Historical development so our collective projects of the Janus Head alters to accommodate our growth….so your quote from Faulkner (as a southern boy who had to read him since the 4th grade I find him insufferable, so forgive) I would state that Faulkner’s recrafting the classical line is in keeping with the dominance of a certain strain of Protestantism that his environment put forth, namely more of a one-to one relation with the Godhead…or maybe Faulkner had realized what Feuerbach understood, G-d was the PROJECT-ion of mAn
Will try to respond further at work…
Go Max!! As a native born American who recently fled, I am very angry as well. Something MUST be done!!!!
“you can find some pearls amongst the piles of dung”
In regards to your originary narrative (and it was quite lovely, but I would wonder at your omission of the introduction of vice so necessary to darkness and correlative association) I (yes the construct writing this) would like to present what you term a pearl which I found mucking about in the Gibbon’s cow pasture, whilst wearing my bell and lowing:
[the] “objects of secret contempt among the polished and enlightened orders of society”
Here Gibbons almost makes a metaphor (applaud the man): one can see a burnished and burning lamp. These lamps (and the idea of light and lamps is quite often a part of religious rhetoric) seem to indicate the select and few in number, but ones owing their illumination to a lamp-tender. The lamps have contempt, a sort of understanding concerning the ‘gods’ proferred, but remain quiet about it. It is time then for the transformation.
Gibbons, as servant of empire, indicates that ‘gods’ are constructs of some social casting, but that light is not. Indeed, light here seems to controlled by some other, an ideal or entity to whom Gibbons spends his entire long-beaned narrative unwind exalting.
Empire only? I think not. Here’s Faulkner’s ‘be light’:
“Then in the long unamaze Quentin seemed to watch them overrun suddenly the hundred square miles of tranquil and astonished earth and drag house and formal gardens violently out of the soundless Nothing and clap them down like cards upon a table beneath the up-palm immobile and pontific, creating Sutpen’s Hundred, the Be Sutpen’s Hundred like the oldentime Be Light. (p. 4)” Absalom, Absalom!
I’m not trying to make a necklace from pearls (but if I were I prefer Faulkner’s version) but wondering why Faulkner left “let there” out of his “be light”. It’s a stunning contradiction from what we, as readers of the most high rhetoric, have been ‘taught’ through constructs based upon originary narratives.
Brackets indicate the absence of operations outside the internal dialogue [within the brackets]. If I bracket you, I separate you from the originary narrative and the constructs. You are right to point out the “I” am hindered in doing so by my inability to bracket myself.
But I wonder if the absence of brackets indicates the presence of chains: relegated to the chained behavior of slaves or humans operating under literary digress of ‘the polished and enlightened’. In which case: I applaud the idea of post-structural dialogue for tabling that which now seems to be force-fed the public through what you term binary channels.
Words, which you insist are inherently laden with nominal consistency, are not subject to constraints indicated by their human allies. This idea was the outcome of the work dominated by the post-structuralists, and makes for fascinating study. We cannot apply meaning to words any more than we can apply meaning to life. We assume the form given us by our lamp-tender when we attempt to do so.
@ Snoot
please forgive the tardiness of response, but my computer is freezing up more frequently than before
In response to this
“Let’s light this candle”
I’ve been wondering about the construct of the above sentence. Really, chArles, it has come to me that the line in reality is drawn between two dichotomies:
Now, I wonder, really, if the darkness was ever really subdued by the words of god or if the darkness is the reason for the words of man.
But I doubt I’ll get a relative answer.”
You can assume my answer given my predisposition of Post-Structuralism and failed Psychology Grad student…Humanity is incapable of thought without the curse of language, once aquired though it traps the animal in the web of Binaries…which seems to be the only way meaning can be created…Though….In my more esoteric days I believe all of the human endeavors from G-d, Politics, Mammon, Sex, Drugs, Art, Music, everything all the little narratives we tell ourselves have the sole function of keeping the darkness at bay…one day, a couple hundred thousand years ago one of our brethren out of the blue had the novel stray thought
It recognized it’s lack of permanence, the animal would pass and be forgotten, so in a Cave in southern France or a rockface in Australia it held its hand against the material world, burnishing a torch and left a faint impression that still stands all these years later, it created permanence, it created light, it created the word….but in doing so left humanity with a need to create a myriad of little narratives, economics, politics, religion, song, dance, stories, to hide our fate…the simple fact that the darkness wins
What we are experience currently is the drum and strung of the current little narrative coming undone, yet to many people have invested their self into this narrative and its unwinding will be destructive
As to your criticism of Gibbon’s…he is a writer in service to Empire, who was on a tight leash but even as Dante who did the same task but from a different direction, you can find some pearls amongst the piles of dung
Bel-Ami:
You say I was cherry-picking quotes to suit my tale concerning Gibbons. But really, when the cherries just fall from the tree, one need only gather them up by the armful!
Bel-Ami: Is it true that women only want to want?
Why run we fast to death?
Faster yet creeps
The night watchman,
Careful lest
Sleeping enter dream’s sweet solace.
My love hindered
By reckless waters.
Speak not of remorse
To me;
The clouds glistening forward
longing, my joy.
Fast the fingers,
Wretched coverlet,
Pierced by threads
Of many words.
Words make day’s
Journey the darkest!
Prolong of my solitude,
Sweet members of my dismemberment,
Preface my weeping
With the curious crass deed,
Upon the grass.
Lines not drawn by man,
But only tasting reticent desire.
As for Gibbon: it’s not a matter of cherry-pickin’ but of his very essence which is essentially brown and boring. He reminds me of this person:
Day grant no wish of mine, not one
As it passes by on its journey.
Even presentiments of joy
Ebb, in wilful depreciation:
A thousand grimaces life employs To hinder me in creation.
Yes, Bel-Ami: laziness is my worst attribute. Indeed, if you look hard enough, you’ll find me lying about in the water sunning my back.
“Let’s light this candle”
I’ve been wondering about the construct of the above sentence. Really, chArles, it has come to me that the line in reality is drawn between two dichotomies:
Let there be light.
Be light.
Now, I wonder, really, if the darkness was ever really subdued by the words of god or if the darkness is the reason for the words of man.
But I doubt I’ll get a relative answer.
btw: This is not Frances showing herself clever, but Frances indicating that the Illuminati have their name for a reason.
@snoot
Skim and cherry pick quotes….Literary tourism. Way to prove the laziness I noted.
*Gibbon
Archangel (2005), with Daniel Craig, gives interesting insight into how Stalin personally signed up to 6000 death orders a day, and yet he was lionized. It also offers glimpses into our situation these days, although that wasn’t necessarily its intent.
My library contains both Gibbon’s works, as well as Will Durant’s. I never quote Gibbons, and I often quote Durant.
The Teapartiers’ hearts may be in the right place, but they will do nothing. They are clueless about what’s really going on, and they are too chickenshit to do or learn the facts because they are afraid of being impolite and of losing their pensions and government checks. Ignorant + unable to learn = stupid. They will not change anything. Already, the RedTeam is beginning to have fond memories of GWBush and is considering running McCain or Palin for supreme dictator. Conservatives are morons, dinosaurs, they live in fantasy land. The old liberals are worse.
Real change must come from the young. But, though they have figured out that the old guard is part of the problem, and that the BlueTeam-RedTeam game is meaningless, today’s yoots are one really-retarded ADHD generation of selfish morons, much more even than their parents. And so, when the SHTF and the country finally takes care of its oligarch/bankster/neo-con/globocapitalist” problem, it promised to be absolute mayhem, a total clusterfk across the country. If it’s like the French or Eastern European revolutions, it will be a really, really bloody mess. God help us.
Meanwhile, over cocktails and cigars:
“In the second century of the Christian era the empire of Rome comprehended the fairest part of the earth and the most civilized portion of mankind…”
Ahhh, that’s music to my ears.
Yes, I do like a good-bit-of-gibbons with my tonic water!
How easily he slides from outright nuance to capture the subject for our pro-genius posterity.
Absolutely! You’ve clarified my admiration entirely.
Wahl, I think he’s an utter bore. And what’z this mean: “The gentle but powerful influence of laws and manners had gradually cemented the union of the provinces.” Don’t sound so good to me! What a prat!
Who let her in? This is gentlemen’s only.
I think she’s the server.
Well, she could use some exercise. Excuse me, will you please take away those dirty glasses? I can’t believe they tolerate such useless help here.
Take those cruddy old thangs away yurself. Yur looking rather wall-eyed: been reading that Gibbons on the toilet, have you?
Good Night! What utter boorishness. Someone should learn this one some manners.
Ain’t got manners.
No kidding. Please, Reginald, escort the ‘princess of particular pugnaciousness’ to the door.
I wouldn’t if I were you, Reggie.
Sir, maybe she could stay if she merely listens.
Words are wasted on one whose facade hides worm-eaten wood. Remember: Irony is lost on the Bell Cow.
Who y’all callin’ a cow?
Sir, I think perhaps we should call the constable.
What, Reggie. A’scaired are we? hahahaha!
Really, so very American. Violence seems to be the order of her day.
That air book of y’all gents ain’t got nuthang real to it. And y’all wasted paper on lines like this one: “Happily for the repose of mankind”. How do he know what makes fur a good night sleep?
I CAN’T TAKE IT. IMMEDIATELY REMOVE THIS BEING.
I’m a leavin’. Got to get to Chapter Two sometime, don’t I? Let’s see…”We may be well assured that a writer conversant with the world would never have ventured to expose the gods of his country to public ridicule had they not already been the objects of secret contempt among the polished and enlightened orders of society.” Guess that be you guys: polished and enlightened? HAHAHAHA! Y’all look rustier that that old combine Cleetus do got out back.
OUUUCH. What y’all chuckin’ thangs at a body fur? I be a-goin’. Goin’ laugh myself silly over Chapter Three.
@ Bel-Ami
snoots crafts her song to win the favor of the horde, but still sprinkles enough of the verse with odes to Dead White Guys to let them know she smart, and better than they….just when you call old Snoot on her game of pretense the verse gets more billegerant as he/she scuttles to reaffirm her bona fides, so Snot will scream she/he hates Masser Charlie’s tounge but she has to do so in Latin…
@Snoot
Ah! You stumbled upon Gibbon and found him wanting. Poor Gent!
Most find his prose lucid and entertaining. Pretentious?? What does that mean? And what chapter did you find him to be a “pretentious prat”? Lazy readers expect to be coddled and sustained in their beliefs through what they read. Any roadblock to this creates discomfort, unmerited contempt and then a self-ennobling loss of interest. Snoot tosses the book aside. The failure to make it through one chapter of Gibbon without suffering boredom becomes a victory over pretension. Irony is lost on the Bell Cow who refuses to hear the tolling around its own neck. The lowing cattle wants to be entertained sumptuously and coddled in its cud chewing. Ecce the LCD pretension!
It is a fustian form of Dedo’s purity in ignorance. Just add some nonsense about narratives sprinkle some doggerel and claim to be above it all. This is a popular form of pretension lording it over internet comment boards. But, entre nous, it is, bien sur, above all pretension!
Ahhh Snoot
place it in brackets all you want..you’ll be just as succeful, but remember you’ll still lose your faculty chair to the Nazi, who’ll steal your thunder and ideas….go ahead craft your New World in the language Masser Charlie gave you, I’m sure it will be a btter place. just as I’m sure your dreams are so much sweeter with the palate of the “other”
art for the day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Edmund_blair_leighton_accolade.jpg
Thank you wise owl!
It was just what i needed!
Much Love!
Don’t you think you should remove those skulls from the shelf.
I thought you were leaving.
Yes, but I’m curious. Why do you need them now?
What skulls. Oh, those. Those are my accolades.
Accolades? HAHAHAHA! They’re skulls. You remind me of a witch doctor.
You ‘intellectuals’ are more superstitious than a sixteen-year-old girl out for her last Halloween Trick or Treats.
I find you insulting.
I find you a bore.
What skulls?
Every accolade you bear was prefaced by some genocide. Unfortunately, you left a record. And though you change the names to protect the guilty, your epistemology is founded on intolerance and greed.
We hold the keys to the kingdom. It’s all win/win here on out.
That’s what you say. But I read that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. And you, sir, represent the kink.
Out you go then: don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
Righteeo. Enjoy your “off with their heads” scenerio.
Boorish Behavior Reclamation Camp
But I wasn’t meaning to be boorish. What does ‘boorish’ imply?
Here: read this. No questions or you’ll be weeding the back entry.
Bbbbut this is boring!
“Faux internet intellectuals” need do penance through epistemological study.
“The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire “…..I’m not reading it. Good Lord! I read a chapter once and found the author to be a pretentious prat!
Look, this is the intellectual gulag. You’ll do as your told if you want to efface that tag! And while we’re at it, here: “Walden”, read this.
Lordy! Do I haffa!
It’s the fate of all whom we decide are “internet Faux Intellectuals [who] like to do to prove their cleverness”. We-that-know-know.
Well, You Who Know-Know. I say no. You can take your Bore-ish camp and shove it up your tighty whities.
We thought you’d say that.
I’m putting you in brackets. [you] There. I’m off.
It’s not that ‘simple’.
Oh, yes, indeedy it is. Good day to you and all your white men’s bones you stand on.
There’s a fence and a gate. You’ll never escape!
I plan to write myself into some nice alternate reality: something that transcends you and your ribald band of ‘right-rights’. Ciao.
@frances snoot,
Your words speak volumes my friend and i wish you good luck with clowning around and i hope some nice things will come your way!
Yes my brother, we are playing the interlude right now!
And it is taking on a beautiful form!
Let’s dance, pray, smile, sing, love, cry, and marvel!
As they say: God has a plan! so lets help him by dreaming every day!
We can still turn this Nightmare around!
My advise to this
‘pretensious nonsense that internet Faux Intellectuals like to do to prove their cleverness’…both require vast amts of wine and boorish behavior followed by some messy regret sex you later scrawl an ode too in the bottom of a motel bedside drawer just before putting a gun in your mouth and spare everyone the secret of your escape’:
Is to hit the snooze button with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_7loz-HWUM
@Rincker.nl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wicy1QgrLJM
Vertrouw op de liefde in je hart en je creativiteit in je koppie!
Moeder aarde hoort je gedachten en brengt ze dan ook in uitvoering,
Je bent een met haar lieve jongen. Leven is liefde dus laat je liefde stromen zo leef je in de wereld van je dromen!
En even wat tips.
Bak eens een appeltaart met gevoel zonder al dat meten met maten waar we eigenlijk toch niets van weten.
En je zult zien dat hij erg goed zal smaken!
Ook het wellen van de Rozijnen kan erg goed in wat Calvados!
En gebruik ook eens wat Honing in plaats van suiker.
En vergeet niet een stukje aan moeder aarde terug te geven.
Je zal zien met een liefdeslied in ons hart en een glimlach op ons gezicht zal zij voor ons zorgen! Ga in vrede lieve jongen deze zot houd van je!
aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh, were all gonna die!
I feel you Max. People are listening more than ever and they are starting to hear but, my god, does it seem like it to little to late. What the hell is going to happen. I’m really sick right now and this is making me feel like I’ll never get better. I have this ridiculous fantasy that maybe the aliens are coming in 2012 to help.
there is no proof but the Sumerian thing matched with beginning and end of time American thing. I do think the universe is an amazing the with doors and dimensions we fail to recognize. My intuition tells me somehow everything will be alright. This world must have some hidden trick up it’s sleeve we can use
KWN Great interview w/ Lori Ann LaRocco #Econ #Jobs #GDP http://bit.ly/a2yyok
Eric King uses sound effect in this one.
“while being unbearable by the great multitude who encounter you”….you know me
“wear black and be moody” always
@ dan valley
F#$$ING HILLARIOUS…but I pefer huffing ether to wine,,,but yea you can join if you promise to were black and be moody…while being unbearable by the great multitude who encounter you
KWN Great interview w/ Lori Ann LaRocco #Econ #Jobs #GDP http://bit.ly/a2yyok
“analyists” calling for gold to drop on demand for equities….ie a big mac and fries.
@charles.” Just signed on to see where the narrative went tonight after my depature, me and Snoot where doing the pretensious nonsense that internet Faux Intellectuals like to do to prove their cleverness….I pefer the stance of Elitist bAstard, he/she pefers the above the fray humanist cynic…both stances grow weary after repeated use”……both require vast amts of wine and boorish behavior followed by some messy regret sex you later scrawl an ode too in the bottom of a motel bedside drawer just before putting a gun in your mouth and spare everyone the secret of your escape…..hows that for faux intellectual drivel….can I join the club?
Where in the hell was that filmed, in front of Max’s car? But I digress…my motto is “If you don’t like ‘em, then don’t do business with them (unless you fucking have to).” ie., no Goldman Sachs, no Bank of America, Citibank, etc. No Google pond scum, No Yahoo! No Facebook No billionaire CEO companies, No monopolies, No Rupert Murdoch fascism – Oh wait, that includes just about everybody. Did I leave someone out?
Moral of the story: Don’t let them get rich off of you!
@youri
Re: Bond Yields at 2%
That could happen of course, but looking over here at BigCharts on Weekly, and it looks for all the world like bond yields are turning up now.
MACD histogram going positive, as are Stochastics..
“analyists” calling for gold to drop on demand for equities….
@Tao Jonesing
Obama has long surpassed Reagan…he is in a category all his own:
(1) At the end of fiscal year 1989, which ended eight months after President Reagan left office, the total federal debt held by the public was $2.1907 trillion.
(2) $2.1907 is $335.3 billion less than the $2.5260 trillion that was added to the federal debt held by the public just between Jan. 20, 2009, when President Obama was inaugurated, and Aug. 20, 2010, the 19-month anniversary of Obama’s inauguration.
(3) The fiscal-year period of 1980-89–which included all of Reagan’s eight years in office–the federal debt held by the public increased $1.4788 trillion.
(4) That is in excess of a trillion dollars less than the $2.5260 increase in the debt held by the public during Obama’s first 19 months.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404
Minerd Says Treasury Yields Could Fall Below 2% in 2010: Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6t7lJyn5Vs
@Mark,.”His vocabulary is over your head.”
Most things are above my head,.. I understand this,..: )
@ Tao
Just signed on to see where the narrative went tonight after my depature, me and Snoot where doing the pretensious nonsense that internet Faux Intellectuals like to do to prove their cleverness….I pefer the stance of Elitist bAstard, he/she pefers the above the fray humanist cynic…both stances grow weary after repeated use
as quick as I can will assemble some thoughts to your querry/statement
@ Does the “dominant narrative” silence all voices or all thought?
yes I do believe it does, I believe the dominant paridigm of a given system is so complete that any voices that arise even in rebelion are structured as affirming the dominant thought…all modes of existing will be in relation to X, affirming or negating…to assert nuetrality or a position outside the given system is impossible (see Donald Davidson’s work, or Qinne)
Is the dominant narrative forced upon people or does it dominate imaginations by how it otherwise fits what is already believed?
It crafts the very structure of the mind itself, the language that one is abe to express oneself with has the imprint upon it…one is encapable of articulating any thought other than in relation to the dominant narrative…this is more of a radical break with Marx’s Historical Materialsm given birth to the Ideas, but it is where a lot of my thought launched from
that was the Philsophical/Socialogical point I was making with Snoots….also why His/Her laisee fare cynicism found such a cold ear tonight, you just can’t opt out of the debate, with a Qe Sera Sera attitude that I found so exclusionary tonight on this board
@ I say this in spite of the fact that I continue to admire both Reagan and Clinton for the leadership and vision they both displayed.
if it wasn’t so late here tonight in Florida I would belabor this point, I disagree with both figures sighted, as I was discussing earlier tonight with little Grad buddy who has given up on Philsophy gradfuate work for computer enginering (whatever that is) the current crop of Presidents have no ambition greater than servicing already dominant players or making a quick score…the great Presidents whenther you love of or hate…dreamed the Dreams of Ceasar (Julius with Lincoln and Augustas with FDR) this country since LBJ has had one midlevel sales manager all the way through to the presant chap…
as to worst Presidents I would say Wodrow Wilson wrought more damage to the globe than anyone else….my reasons differ slightly from the new vouge, I was a William Jennings Byran man, who as Secretary of State left the Wilson cabinet because he believe getting america into WW I was a mistake, I agree, the Brits, Frtench, Germans should’ve had that out and let Europe reset itself…countless millions would have died, but it might have staved off WWII which wreck Western Civilization and killed ungodly amounts of humans
I can make a case against my childhood president of FDR who swaped completely the Republic for Empire, but as a child I too wouldn’t fault a man for seizing the World if it was offered
night night
Hello, dummies!
Oh my God, look at you. Anyone else hurt in the accident?
Seriously, Senator Reid has a face of a Saint – A Saint Bernard.
Now I know why they call you the arithmetic man. You add partisanship, subtract pleasure, divide attention, and multiply ignorance.
Reid is so physically unimposing, he makes Pee Wee Herman look like Mr. T.
And Reid’s so dumb, he makes Speaker Pelosi look like an intellectual.
Nevada is soooo screwed!
If I were less polite, I’d say Reid makes Kevin Federline look successful.
Speaking of the Speaker… Nancy Pelosi, hubba, hubba!
Hey baby, you must’ve been something before electricity.
Seriously, the Speaker may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. She really is an idiot.
Madame Speaker… want to make twelve bucks the hard way?
Pelosi says she’s not partisan, but her constituents call her Madame Pelossilini.
Charlie Rangel… still alive and still robbing the taxpayers blind. What does that make, six decades of theft?
Rangel’s the only man with a rent-controlled mansion.
He’s the guy who writes our tax laws but forgot to pay taxes on $75 grand in rental income!
So why isn’t he the Treasury Secretary?
Rangel runs more scams than a Nigerian Banker.
Barney Frank – he’s a better actor than Fred Flintstone.
Consider… he and Dodd caused the whole financial meltdown and they’re not only not serving time with Bubba and Rodney, they’re still heading up the financial system!
Let’s all admit it… Barney Frank slobbers more than a sheepdog on novocaine.
How did this guy get elected? Oh, that’s right… he’s from Massachusetts.
That’s the state that elects Mr. Charisma, John Kerry — man of the people!
You know, if Senator Dodd were any more crooked, you could open wine bottles with him.
Here’s a news flash, Dodd: when your local newspaper calls you a “lying weasel”, it may be time to retire.
Dodd’s involved in more shady deals than the Clintons.
Even Rangel looks up to him!
Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, I really respect you… especially given your upbringing. All you’ve overcome…
I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.
I don’t know what makes you so dumb, but it really works for you.
Personally, I don’t think you are a fool, but what’s my opinion compared to that of thousands of others?
Gibbs does his best expositional work in the bathroom every morning.
As for President Obama, what can I say?
They say President Obama’s arrogant and aloof, but I don’t agree.
Now it’s true when you enter the room, you have to kiss his ring. I don’t mind, but he has it in his back pocket.
His mind is open to new ideas — so open that ideas simply pass through it.
Obama lies so much, I was actually surprised to find out his first name really was Barack.
Just don’t ask about his middle name!
But Obama was able to set a record… he actually lied more in 60 days than Bill Clinton.
As far as his administration — what with the tax cheat and lobbyists — well, in the words of Patches O’Houlihan, “It’s like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob out there.”
With all due respect.
I’ve found that if you add “with all due respect” to the end, any insult is okay.
@Dedo
You got it wrong. He says you play games.
You do.
His vocabulary is over your head.
@Snoots
Its pay per view, but i dont pay, im cheap.
http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/
@Bel-Ami,…I could have reduced your comment to one sentence (simplification).
But I’m assuming that’s beyond your erudition?
The chitter chatter of intellectualism, ohh yummy LOL,…(you’re cute) : )
@chArles,
“Snoot all history is just the playing out of a dominant narrative that silences all voices…”
Does the “dominant narrative” silence all voices or all thought? Is the dominant narrative forced upon people or does it dominate imaginations by how it otherwise fits what is already believed?
To my mind, the dominant narrative dominates precisely because it seems familiar and without regard to its truth. The youth can be indoctrinated to accept the dominant narrative, but what excuse do the “grown-ups” have?
Seriously. Ronald Reagan was probably the single worst president the U.S. has had in terms of his true legacy for average Americans, but he is lionized. And Bill Clinton is a close second because his embrace of neoliberal ideals created a double truth within the Democratic party that spelled the end of a real two party system. The good news for Bill is that Obama is hell-bent to outdo King Ronnie. There’s no way he will succeed, but I think he’ll surpass Bill for the No. 2 spot.
I say this in spite of the fact that I continue to admire both Reagan and Clinton for the leadership and vision they both displayed. This may seem inherently contradictory, but the fact is that both men had to live in a world that Nixon created by closing the gold window at the urging of Milton Friedman and Paul Volcker, which unexpectedly led to stagflation and, ultimately, the destruction of U.S. manufacturing. The FIRE sector’s quiet coup actually occurred in 1971, not 1981 or 2008 (as urged by Simon Johnson).
@Max
There are a lot of sophists that try to put us to sleep. I’m a simple mind when it comes to finance but what you and Stacy say is consistent with what I see so keep shaking us awake Max.
You’ve definitely struck cords.
ahahahahahahahah! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_azimCSzqNnc/SeWjgbJUviI/AAAAAAAABA4/uIjDRm46Tvs/s400/bernanke+bare+ass.jpg
Very Clear Piece – Must Read!
ECR Research Says That The Point Of Recognition Is Approaching As The World Realizes Ben Bernanke Is Naked http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ecr-research-says-point-recognition-approaching-world-realizes-ben-bernanke-naked
typo
nya = any
Something technically strange in the markets the last week or so is the lack of good setups for trades. Most conventional indicators are contradicting each other. I can normally scalp a few percent every couple of weeks. I am out of the markets now, there doesn’t seem to be nya real definable trend and there are very few indicator correlations.
I wonder if it’s because the ‘bots’ are all that’s left out there?
@WL
Global Collapse article- similar or roughly in agreement by Jim Willie in recent article.
Most people see this as not to far off.
Damn. I’m not ready for it!
Retail Capitulation: Stock Outflows Surge By Over $7.5 Billion In 18th Consecutive Week Of Record Stock Market Boycott http://www.zerohedge.com/article/retail-capitulation-stock-outflows-surge-just-under-10-billion-18th-consecutive-week-record-
@Bel-Ami
I’ve noticed what you’re talking about, yes…
Some folks think being a taunt gives them intellectual points, as if this is what it’s all about.
They don’t understand the passion for learning and information, and try to discredit the impulse.
This is the bane of America, I agree with you…
Great site for charts..WOW
http://www.nowandfutures.com/cb_watch.html
Mike Pento Kicked Off CNBC For Telling Truth, As Dumb Money Manager Says “Nothing Is In A Bubble When People Want To Buy It http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mike-pento-kicked-cnbc-telling-truth-dumb-money-manager-says-nothing-bubble-when-people-want
@Marc
I think you’ll like Linux, that’s what I use…very reliable…
Let’s light this candle!
@Charles
Eleusinian Mysteries are an ancient version of Freemasonry! Careful.
(laughter)
Global Collapse of the Fiat Money System: Too Big To Fail Global Banks Will Collapse Between Now and First Quarter 2011
When Quantitative Easing Has Run Its Course and Fails
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20853
It is my estimation that they have to QE up to US$20 trillion at the minimum. The FED and no central banker would dare “create such an amount of money out of thin air” without arousing the suspicions and or panic of sovereign creditors, investors and depositors. It is as good as declaring officially that all the banks are BANKRUPT.
So whos your favourite european politician
Van Rompuy wants clearer ‘hierarchy’ to deal with future crises
http://euobserver.com/9/30132
Max are you pro Vichy or free French?
Dedo equates being erudite with an inability to think for oneself. The inferiority complex of a poorly educated man now becomes an heroic resistance to “book learning”. Stupidity has its perks. It struts proudly on Comment Boards all over the internet.
By not studying history, literature or philosophy Dedo believes he thinks in a purer, more independent, manner. Does anyone else find this ignorant purity amusing? It is consummately American to belittle people who are well read. Anti-Intellectualism in America is akin to Fascism.
The fool sits back and splits a fulsome grin. His gaze renders diaphanous what to others remains opaque.
A tabula rasa accepts every impression. Especially being impressed with oneself.
1930-Ties
China’s young officers and the 1930s syndrome by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100007519/china%E2%80%99s-young-officers-and-the-1930s-syndrome/
1938 in 2010 by Paul Krugman http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/06/opinion/06krugman.html?_r=2
Book Burning Kristallnacht November 9 & 10, 1938 http://www.uncp.edu/home/rwb/book_burning33.jpg
‘Burn the Quran Day’ protest: Terry Jones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVHims5VqZk
Flag Burning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZthdLlpNB2w
I agree with everything you said and have been saying and writing much of it for the past two years. The “Too Big to Fail” swindle is unlike anything I have ever seen in my long life. Unfortunately, too many in the Middle Class are busy trying to survive, and believe theTARP was the only benefit to Wall Street–and, after all, they are paying most of that back. But who will replace the trillions coming out of the Fed and into the hands of the Wall Street swindlers? I stopped using their corrupt “brokerage” services 30 years ago–but the paths to fraud they have found and are using daily are amazing, and make Bernie Madoff’s take look like petty theft. Keep telling it, Max! Ron Carpenter, Florida
@Bonn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfunzu0-SAY
In résumé if you love USA boycott the fuckin place. Good idea. Bought me a Linux computer today for the papa. Yeah fuck Bill Gates and Microsoft. It’s a darn good start to defend the middle class.
@WL:
How many blogs were you kicked off before you found this one?
@CHaRLES:
Castro linky-dinky?
Another Sick Joke!
Goldman Sachs Group Inc.agreed to pay $550 million in July to settle a U.S. regulator’s Abacus Probe fraud lawsuit http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-08/goldman-said-to-be-fined-less-than-30-9-million-by-u-k-over-abacus-case.html
Goldman Sachs will pay Tip money (saying TnX for the laughable fine) a separate fine to the U.K.’s Financial Services Authority.
ahaaahahahahaahahh! What a Joke!
Oh Good I did’nt Fight wit anyone Last Nite
WTF! Japan’s Stocks Rise as Europe Debt Concern Eases, Yen Weakens http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-09/japan-s-stocks-rise-as-europe-debt-concern-eases-yen-weakens-canon-gains.html
What made today so much diffirent from yesterday? This is all a sick Joke!
@ snoot
thanks for the Castro link failed to see that in my “Travels” today…curious if his concerns are a valid reflection of the current economic model his country employ is failing to increase living standards or if old Castro is chaffing not to be at the center of Cuba anymore…Mao’s Cultural Revolt was an old man trying to prove his “potency”
@Mark Lytle – China, Russia start pushing dollar out of trade ‘within weeks’
Well that is important news.
@Snoots
The IMF has a blog, you can even leave comments…
http://blog-imfdirect.imf.org/
@ Snoot
ahhh Langston is one of my “Fellow Travelers” love Harlem Renaissance…always gave the Lefty Litt teachers something to chirp about in February so long as the Cracker’s whip like it always was remained the loudest song the rest of the year
Well said Max. Wall Street is no different then the Marquis St. Evrémonde. They too will all end up meeting their Gaspard.
Peter Morgan accuses Tony Blair of plagiarising lines from his film The Queen
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/7987064/Peter-Morgan-accuses-Tony-Blair-of-plagiarising-lines-from-his-film-The-Queen.html
Report: Castro says Cuban model doesn’t work
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100908/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_fidel_castro_5
Sergey Brin: “We Want Google To Be The Third Half Of Your Brain.”
http://www.businessinsider.com/sergey-brin-we-want-google-to-be-the-third-half-of-your-brain-2010-9#ixzz0yzfSiRhJ
Well, really, chArles, bitterness is just another word for brackish water:
http://oldpoetry.com/opoem/15977-Langston-Hughes-The-Negro-Speaks-Of-Rivers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu0AZ6YezkE&feature=related
Like the hens. No Roosters though, they are to Cocky … You like Roosters francis? The eggs are real tasty, feed um lots of greens, help keeps the cholesterol down.
Add Max Keiser to my short list of heroes. Sharpen the guillotines
http://www.gata.org/node/8992
China, Russia start pushing dollar out of trade ‘within weeks’
Submitted by cpowell on Wed, 2010-09-08 18:58. Section: Daily Dispatches
Yuan Trading Against Russian Ruble Said to Start Within Weeks in Shanghai
By Artyom Danielyan and Emma O’Brien
Bloomberg News
Wednesday, September 8, 2010
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-08/china-russia-push-yuan-ruble-tr...
China and Russia plan to start trading in each other’s currencies as the world’s second-biggest energy consumer and the largest energy supplier seek to diminish the dollar’s role in global trade.
“Given the risk to the dollar and U.S. assets from their fiscal position they want to reduce their dependence on the dollar as an invoicing currency,” Bhanu Baweja, global head of emerging markets fixed income, currency, and credit research at UBS AG, said in a telephone interview from London. “It makes sense for two large economies to exclude a third, overly dominant economy from their trading equation.”
In the wake of the global financial crisis, which forced the U.S. economy into recession, both China and Russia have called for the dollar’s role in the financial system to be diluted. Volatility in major currencies is putting the global recovery at risk Zhang Ping, the head of China’s National Development and Reform Commission, said last month. President Dmitry Medvedev last year suggested Russia, holder of the world’s third-largest foreign-currency reserves, reduce its holdings of dollars.
Webbot Clif High on oneRadio Net 9/8/2010 http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=176731.msg1102745#msg1102745
http://www.gata.org/node/8980
BEIJING — China on Friday offered a rare glimpse into its foreign exchange reserves, confirming that they are overwhelmingly allocated in dollars, while a central banker said the mountain of cash could face depreciation risks.
Ahh, the “king of fruits” … Guava, lucky there snoot, none here. Have @150 strawberry plants, there tasty. Blueberries too, also Rhode Islands Reds …
stacy. be nice to max. He looks stressed. i worry about you folks sometimes. You are doing so much. But as we know. Its alot of pressure from the evil side. The elite ashholes are a grumpy ashole type. Between polo events they try and manipulate the rest of us.
@ frances snoot
no Snoot I don’t she has the promagrante, I think her voice will be gone with the death of you and other’s who have heard her voice, does it have less value or merit No, but it will surely die quicker than Masser Charlie’s voice…to pretend otherwise is folly…the great multitude live quiet live of misery, because Masser Charlie like his coffee black with just a dash of milk white…and Masser Charlie like everyone in there place, so if that means quieting down a song bird that is up to late keeping the misses up, so be it…no one gonna miss that song bird anyway…everything in its place a time for every season
so be coy, you live longer, but you’ll never sing, yea Vico is right… things are born, they grow, they stumble into decay and then they Die…I hope the Mythrial Cult bring you as much comfort as the Hebraic Dynosian cults brought those I love….but if the narrative doesn’t recorded it…then ask the old Nazi, when things stumble into the clearing and we fail to name them, the quickly go back into the abyss….no matter, keep it coy, in the modern age pretense is all, all is image, maybe your song bird can be a Pop star and then run for President of her island kigdom to carry the water of Masser Charlie in Langley…don’t matter none
Isn’t it rather sad that e-piss-tee-mole-ogy only indicates where you know that those who hold the pomegranate are actually holding the Old Maid Card?
Funnymentalist:
Does your messiah have a calling card?
A wise did did say
the first silk road required the introduction of a new messiah..
four or more centuries of war..
and the so-called collapse of rome.. where the vatican calls home today
(the modern silk road may not be all that different)
“oh yea thats right there isn’t any”
Actually, chArles, I had a visitor today. She had been eyeing my guava trees like a hungry blackbird. Her youth had been spent in the Bahamas, where guavas are like chocolate to the youth (in her day). She made me happy, very, recounting the tales of her childhood while busily bagging many bags of ripening fruit. And her voice was a song. That song, sweet and full, has not been canceled nor negated, but lingers and has strength beyond the strength of most men I’ve met.
So, do you think she has the pomegranate?
Silky
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/7985812/China-to-build-2bn-railway-for-Iran.html
For: Harry W:
The lyrics originally published in 1805 have remained largely unchanged.
Old Mother Hubbard
Went to the cupboard,
To give the poor dog a bone:
When she came there,
The cupboard was bare,
And so the poor dog had none.
She went to the baker’s
To buy him some bread;
When she came back
The dog was dead!
She went to the undertaker’s
To buy him a coffin;
When she came back
The dog was laughing.
She took a clean dish
to get him some tripe;
When she came back
He was smoking his pipe.
She went to the alehouse
To get him some beer;
When she came back
The dog sat in a chair.
She went to the tavern
For white wine and red;
When she came back
The dog stood on his head.
She went to the fruiterer’s
To buy him some fruit;
When she came back
He was playing the flute.
She went to the tailor’s
To buy him a coat;
When she came back
He was riding a goat.
She went to the hatter’s
To buy him a hat;
When she came back
He was feeding her cat.
She went to the barber’s
To buy him a wig
When she came back
He was dancing a jig.
She went to the cobbler’s
To buy him some shoes;
When she came back
He was reading the news.
She went to the sempstress
To buy him some linen;
When she came back
The dog was spinning.
She went to the hosier’s
To buy him some hose;
When she came back
He was dressed in his clothes.
The Dame made a curtsy,
The dog made a bow;
The Dame said, Your servant;
The dog said, Bow-wow.
This wonderful dog
Was Dame Hubbard’s delight,
He could read, he could dance,
He could sing, he could write;
She gave him rich dainties
Whenever he fed,
And erected this monument
When he was dead.
snoots comment Fis about the old Mythrial cults and the story of the natural cycle of birth growth and decay exemplified by the figure of Persephone….Greek Goddess condemned to live withg Hadas for half the year and the other half spent above grown, when she descends brings fall and winter on her return it brings spring summer..she had a fondness for promagrantes
Snoot all history is just the playing out of a dominant narrative that silences all voices…speaking that the dominant narrative doesn’t silence all voices reminds me of all the great slave history that is recorded…oh yea thats right there isn’t any….the narrative silence all…that which exerts a voice can only speak in relation to the dominant narrative…only rebelion by it’s nature reaffirms the legitimacy of the dominant narrative…to say otherwise is folly
Unfortunately, Grandma is hoping she is not a sentimental attachment. But, time will tell.
OOPs.
The queen was in the PARLOUR. The pomegranate is under the velvet cushion to your left. (hint: don’t tell everybody, there might be a rush)
(One can hope it’s found, but alack, history has a way of repeating)
Easy, quite the snap, Fundamentally.
The King was in the counting house: counting out his money.
The Queen was in the garden: eating bread and honey.
The maid was in the garden: hanging out the clothes. There came a little black (ack) bird and peck-ed off her nose!
SDR is merely an index to relegate the rhetoric to some semblance of order. It means about as much as the munchkins did to Dorothy.
@HappyDickster:
Sentimental attachments go first. Then the fuse blows.
“A call to end complacency through violence”
Think of it more like a dispute over patents.
BTW that pomegranate thing,its some greek god thing? Give me a clue snoots, I like clues.
Think the Sdr is narcotic to keep the sheeple blood extraction ongoing.
how long is the fuse??? when will civility blow??? Snoot
My only question is this:
Who’s got the pomegranate?
Just the awareness of what is really going on will put a big kink into the elite banksters plans.
i’ve talked to alot of folks now. Average folks working all sorts of jobs that I bring up the subject of us all being manipulated and robber by the elite banksters. And these people are aware of it. Which is something. I live in rural montana. So I’m guessing alot of folks have to be aware of the corruption of the big elite banksters/wall street/london banksters.
A call to end complacency through violence? How so? Violence is the expression of the paragoned complacent utter apathetic anger-induced whatever action. It might be male prerogative to say so: but here I speak as a male.
What matters? We are told what matters: we are force-fed the line and heaven help us if we don’t stand on one side or the other. Relevance has nothing to do with what matters to those that matter! The rest of us: be damned.
This call; this fight club moment; this anguish of rhetorical appeal–anatomically misses greatly the mark. For there were no voices of the children at play. There were no gardens, no kites flying, no jars of polished jam shining on the shelf.
Anglo-Saxon mucky-mucky: that’s what this is. And don’t have the gall to call it gaul. It’s a senseless appeal that rhymes only with the generational pull of death.
Death may have her song. Do we believe the narrative alone is to blame?
Keiser … Tony Blair a “Lying sack of dog dirt” (You were too gentle Max)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4u-sNR02vg&feature=channel
Charlie?
“Details of the R20 will be launched at Governor Schwarzenegger’s Global Climate Summit in November along with a ”green bank,” backed by the United Nations Development Program, to help participating governments fund low carbon development. Mr Tamminen said Australia should look to California as an example of how acting on climate change was good for the economy.”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/stern-warning-for-climate-sceptics-20100901-14nkr.html
Nice to see Lou back.
9/8/10 market update – stock market is dead – more corruption & minipulation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYixrZ-MTOE
Tell the People Max !!!!! Rise up !!!!
@Youri Carma
Yeah. Fuck them. Nothing changes in this dirty empire. They can go to hell. The rest of the world is tired of these spoiled cry babies. Hope the unemployment goes to 35%. Yeah. It’s about the only thing that will change something. We are at 23,3% real unemployment rate and still nothing. Another 10% I hope will do the trick. I hope but I am not sure people are so dead in this scary country.
@Youri … It Ain’t Half Hot Mum
LOL .. great one .
Dad’s Army is good as well.
Dylan Ratigan: Americans Fed Up With Handling of Economy Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sf5wRyL8u0
It was awsome to hear Celente tip toe round the Global warming issue on AJ’s show. Like what he done on Max Keiser’s show. He quickly expands it out to poisoning the enviroment / food, while staying away from those with “extreme views”.
Seems Max backing off slightly from that Eco thang. Trying to connect with his roots and claiming various ancestorial rights? Im a peasant bastard Max the only thing im interested is when are you and AJ gonna Get…It…On!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuNAYdcgRcc
BTW which asshole is responsible for forcing Charlie Manson into the consiousness of the debate. Jeeze you media dudes will stoop to any depth.
@ Susie
How did Nova Scotia weather the storm?
I only heard about one death.
@ronron
Good Vids! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZthdLlpNB2w
max on top form
So changes in attitudes about personal space requirements and changes in Real Estate use patterns…Natural response to economic stress…
These trends will put additional pressure on real estate and banks if they become commonplace…Also real estate taxes since fewer households..
So how do we start…..let’s get this revolution on the road! How do I start the movement here in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada?
Another relatively new social trend:
Couch surfing:
Participate in Creating a Better World, One Couch At A Time
http://www.couchsurfing.org/
Suspect this will be the mechanism by which social re_concentration will eventually be achieved.
Suburbs are by design wasters of Real Estate, in the sense of head count per square mile. Some couch surfers may eventually permanently homestead in someones place forming larger cohesive units…
This and the doubling up phenomenon I mentioned earlier may change densities of neighborhoods in the future, affecting resource use patterns..
Alot of people are upset with the criminality of the big elite banksters at wall street and london and thier puppets in washington.
Afshin Rattansi: ‘Iran report nothing to do with IAEA: Obama needs Israeli lobby’s money’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x2MaqVz0ZU
Watch NRA enrollments climb too, just to get that sticker to put in a window….
Deters crime too, which households have the guns and which don’t?
This could be part of a major cultural realignment for much of the middle class. It takes a different mindset to share small spaces.
Wasps have been preoccupied with their personal space and their stuff. Here’s change coming….
Way to go Max could not agree more.
One thing that I see some middle class people doing more of, is doubling up.
I see lots of extended families (Anglo) here in Texas, by necessity mostly, sharing living space. I ran into a women, here at the supermarket, supporting 11 people in her house. These are all family members who have essentially become homeless. Some have reacquired employment at lower wages, and contribute. Watch this become a major trend.
@Snootles
Nah, just sayin’ thanks from my neck of the woods.
Happy for all to be themselves, it would be pretty dull if all the comments just read….
“I agree”
@Stella
I know, salt is bad for the heart too.
Thanks for showing concern
@Mark,…..Suggestions !
Be more specific,..it’s a big world out there (if you’ve noticed)
Webster Tarpley: Clinton spewing rhetoric, arrogance and hypocrisy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br-4SaYWX8U
Yeah, Big Clinton success: Cocaine and Opium trade.
@MiniUS:
I’d go light on that salt, if I-wuz-you. Y’all ain’t got the stumach fur it, like Bounty do. She can lick salt all afternoon.
Steller
As we come up to the 9th anniversary of 9/11 I am sick that I must still live in a system that believe the “official” story, a country that bombs and attacks poor, defenseless countries for their resources and lies about it. It never stops. Phony bailouts, thieving bankers, demoralized military, sick, twisted, perverted politicians, on an on.
The Gulf of Mexico is in a horrendous condition all done intentionally. Everything has been planned. Even the idiot reactions of the brain washed public. Our media should be lynched. Our school system is toxic.
Middle class…going down for the third time…throw out a life line.
@MiniUS:
Ain’t we’uns been grateful? I mean. I done larned thangs hair ’bout the CO-two and gold. Sum-times get the two sorta riled ’bout in me head. Like when I was in the canoe. I know now that thangs take time. Soon enuff. Soon enuff.
Cleetus CFA
pbs: I do be a mite touched fur STacY. If’n Max do dump her, maybe she be keen to drink some Bud and fish. I got them wurms ready fur the bait-box. Just a’waitin’ fur the fish to make them bubbles. They already be mine, just bein’ patient-like a’sittin. A’sittin and a’waitin. Fish is easy.
Re Media.
The best way to see how others are seeing your country is to watch/read international media about your country of birth/residence.
While living overseas as an Australian I understood that the world sees Australia as a quaint little backwater with kangaroos and shark attacks.
Iranians would be amazed at how they are portrayed to the West sitting in a US hotel room for the first time and watching CNN.
I know its fairly obvious, but even if you don’t want to be affected by what you see, it is difficult for the unconscious.
An old girlfriend once told me she wasn’t affected by advertising while she was filling the shopping cart with crap.
Ok, maybe she just like to eat crap, I dunno
no problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jqEC_Bgkbg&feature=player_embedded
@GGees
I calls em the way I sees em. Max advocates issues consistent with the Globalist agenda. I find that perplexing. I don’t know his motives…..
We have two crime syndicates the Globalists and the National Socialist (NeoCons) fighting for the spoils, I say fuckem all. Max is too intelligent not to see the Globalist agenda.
i was quite keen on Nigel Farage until i heard his view on Iran, something like ‘we cant let them get nuclear weapons’, which is pretty much coded language these days for ‘we cant let them be independent and develop any nuclear technology whatsoever’ & ‘lets support Israel’.
He is still hilarious when he shouts down the Eurocrats in Strasbourg though, so credit where credit’s due.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I84-_hcbtyU see ya’ll
@Dedo
I kinda agree, not against Marc in particular.
Its just that we must be careful of “I read the ‘interwebs’, therefore I am”.
I am guilty of same, just don’t have time to research each article and understand each writers agenda.
All the repeat ones I can, but there is a lot out there.
Best to have large ‘Grain of Salt’ next to the computer as you read, and digest with same.
@Stacy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xdYOvORoJg&feature=player_embedded
@Max
Cool.
You can’t say it plainer than than.
Love the smiling assassin look.
Good on you and Stacy for this platform to learn, disagree, vent, argue, joke, laugh, understand, weep, etc. all at our leisure.
You guys have made this your life’s work which is awesome. I have my work and am very appreciative that I can clock in when I can and catch up on all the goss.
Thank Y’all too
@dedo
It’s important in order to solve problems to recognize them.
So you have the floor, what are your suggestions?
The Geopolitics of Information: How Western Culture Dominates the World
The Director of the British Film Institute adds his sober reassessment to the unending debate about First World news media and Third World news. He concedes the imbalance, sees it as the product of a cultural gulf that will not disappear, and is properly skeptical of the “solutions,” either one-sided or by way of compromise, that have been proposed at UNESCO and elsewhere; but he sees the need for new networks “constructed in a spirit of real interdependence.”
forgive me father cause i have sinned. whats the problem young man? i am responsible for a million deaths. you are forgiven. thanks for coming by. here’s a kid for you to fuck with. tell me next week.
@Mark,…All I’m saying is,. a lot of your suggestions, aren’t really yours !
You seem to read and regurgitate, without much extrospection.
and the admission in the booth doesn’t help. you. right beardo?
ounce they tape you. they own you.
all these fucks have been taped. tony, george, all of them. Max only had the sausage in his pants at the xmas party. no big deal. he is cool about it and admitted it for all.
on your tape plus the churches tape. recruitment.
fuck. in any local election ask the question. are you catholic? if so can confession save you soul from past wrongs. if the answer is yes. trouble. it’s on tape. forever captured.
@Dedo
I’m not sure what you’re saying. We have declining demographics. Our populations are getting older because of falling birth rates. That makes us less productive in the economic sense. It means tax receipts are falling everywhere, so I have no idea what you’re getting at..It’s not something you can wave a magic wand and fix.
Further we need the world population to decline, naturally. Beard thinks the Bankers are causing this decline and they should be eliminated to ‘reverse it’ I’m not thinking that’s desirable anyway. Plus I think it’s a natural process that can’t be reversed for lots of reasons…
@GGees,…WL has some very constructive input,.. more than most on this site (including muah),..so back off !,.. or I’ll kick your scrawny asssssssss : )
In the debate, who is the real Max Keiser: a crypto-facist shill for the Rothschilds? Or, middle class mensch making the world safe for democracy and monopoly-free capitalism?
Max’s videos and this discussion board have helped inform me to global economic situation. But, for all the information I have gained over the past few years, I have taken little action. Perhaps, I am a sheeple. I have been shorn. Bah. Bah.
And, this lack of action coupled with the growing knowledge of our predicament has drowned some of us in despair. Remember the guest from a year ago or so. Insight + helplessness = depression.
But can I, how can we, become Wolves again? How can we take back our power from these banker-politician-military elitists?
If you have taken back yours, if you roam as a wolf free of this injustice, tell us your story.
To date, Max has urged us to:
1. sell Coke a Cola
2. buy gold and silver
3. and make a movie
Catherine Austin Fitts (and Huffington Post etc) has urged us to move our money.
Max Keiser has stopped Cantor Fitzgerald by pulling the plug on his own Franken-exchange and helped Iceland.
What can we do?
To the extent Max and this forum identify actions and we take them, we will know where he and *we* stand.
I struggle to understand why people like WL visit this site and post anti max comments every day. If you dont agree fine have your say then just fck off and go somewhere you prefer sheeeze. Max is not perfect but at least hes on the right track, is he anti-american? I dont think so he just hates what the US has become.
@Orr
Monsieur Orr vous êtes un réaliste. Ce sera sanguinaire en effet. It will be bloody indeed.
I of course meant Daily Mail and not Daily Mirror although that one time left leaning working mans paper has also become a celebrity/tits fixated toddler catalogue that serves purely as a device for coverting brain matter into papier mache.
Here’s a starter for you,..
http://overpopulationisamyth.com/2-point-1-kids-a-stable-population
@Mark,..whoops,.second buy last,.
BTW: reading your most recent post,….the over population thang is a myth,…..do your sums,..: )
Kitty,
The working class in the UK are even worse than the middle class, they suck down the stupidity they are fed in the Sun and the Daily Mirror, it was they that voted for Thatcher blinded by fake Nationalism and sinking warships. The only honour or integrity they appear to recognise is on the football pitch and even there they are led a merry dance that they barely comprehend. Call them up on this and they get defensive, evasive and downright stroppy and threaten to vote for the Tories which they generally end up doing, so blinded are they by bluff, bluster and cheap nationalistic showboating that only a poorly trained dog should normally be susceptible to. The middle class may be overly narcisstic but the working class have badly fried chicken for brains and until that changes the right wing will play them for the patsies they have become.
@Mark,…I don’t mean to be condescending, but reading your last post,..
You really don’t seem to have a full grasp of how the system is “actually” run,..
@Beard
I disagree. Natural cycles existed before bankers.
The problem is cycles exist. Keynesians and others try to violate natures laws.
They try to eliminate cycles.
Now your saying we kill the bankers or whatever, and we go on a great growth cycle. To what, 12 billion people? 20 billion people?
and they’re all prosperous?
Where does that exponential growth curve end? till the whole planet is writhing mass of human flesh, and we’ve destroyed all of the fish in the sea, chopped down all of the trees for McMansions, Dug up and used all the ores of metal, etc.etc.
I think the earth and God is tired of us, frankly…
@MirrorMirror Thank U for the link – If only North American politics had the common sense to be so rude.
… and then some guy in the commentary adds to the clarity and hilarity with “You have all the charisma of a damp rag” Damn that is funny.
… I can only wish that I could, one day, come up with such an ultimate put down.
@Youri
Yeah, it makes a great slogan in a rant though. Yet hollow and meaningless tripe….
@WL – “principles on which the country was founded”
- Indian Genocide
- Killing all the Buffalo’s tanks to Buffalo Kill Bill
- Looting world’s recources
@Mark,
The banking and Money model is at the root of all those problems and others besides since we blatantly disobey this command:
19 “You shall not charge interest to your countrymen: interest on money, food, or anything that may be loaned at interest.”
20 “You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countrymen you shall not charge interest, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess.”
21 “When you make a vow to the LORD your God, you shall not delay to pay it, for it would be sin in you, and the LORD your God will surely require it of you. Deuteronomy 23:19-21 (New American Standard Bible)
Notice that verse 21 commands against delaying payments to the Lord. Might this not be an implicit condemnation of fractional reserve banking since bank liabilities are on demand but assets are not?
Deuteronomy 23:19-21
ECB steps up eurozone bond buying http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=186011.0
@all
Anyone know what Max is referring to when he stated in the vid
“principles on which the country was founded”
@Talcott.
singsong..
nice :
The British working class may be in a cage. A modern day gin row for some. In a fat stupor. Fed on bread and circuses and stella and x factor (and maybe some homegrown). But we are common and we are burly, beware. Up to now we have had just about enough to live on that we haven’t had to think. Shame on us. It isn’t that we don’t know it is just that we don’t spend the time thinking about it!
And then there’s the middle class to which I would include doctors, lawyers, teachers and the media. And of course the rank and file of middle managers. So many who nodded to the beat. Of which the teachers I thought could be the most hypocritical.
Banging the drum was Thatcher, our economy wavered as imports were at a better price than buying local. At the time so much was owned collectively by the nation but she got us to sell it all off. She found a chink in the armour flogging council houses and enough of the working class saw their ticket. She got the consensus to believe the unions were ruining the country and that nationalized industries were inefficient (when we can produce surplus perhaps a little inefficiency ain’t so bad?) and privatisation would be cheaper. She got us to believe in buying shares but not in sharing.
Now we find perhaps the only efficiency we ever had was in selling off the family silver.
But I have a problem. I am not so left or right wing I want either a communist revolution or a nationalist rise to power. If we are heading downwards I expect the common mass to start to mobilize and I expect there are enough ‘intellectuals’ wishing to show them the way. I do believe we should expect to have a greater control of our enviroment and with the UK as a single language island (to the most part; my apologises to the Celtic fringe) that we somehow should have a collectivism in controlling the infrastructure. British Rail , British this that etc. Yet if some of this might make sense how easily will others take it further? If we hadn’t put our shirt on banking we might have escaped the ridiculous rent levels which makes setting up a small business difficult (whilst the amount of empty commercial real estate is kept locked up – rather than be marked to market).
Now I could admire the French level of collectivism though I see they aren’t immune to a degree of nationalism.
How can the middle class be persuaded in the UK to take a hair cut on their property prices? They are a group that can lock their doors at the first hint of trouble. Isolationists for their kids sake (the usual defense). Now when I was late teens, early twenties I thought the middle class adversion to getting into serious romantic relationships with working class was a bad thing. It worked both ways no doubt but they perceived the it more so as a fate worth than death. This I thought was devisive and I see something similar in how faith based arrangements perpetuate fracture zones between communities. Multiculturism in good times is hardly an issue but in bad times history repeats itself. Recipes for scapegoating and internecine warfare. I kind of think true integration occurs when it produces children.
Let the people in control of the broadcast consensus, the media, the managers (think how human resources demands a certain Speak at interviews), the moral highgrounders, the politicians, THE MIDDLE CLASS, the teachers and beaucrats. Let them court us the working class, not shun us and we may, just may, let you back in the fold.
Into the common fold because all ) you (the middle classhave ever had is fucking money and we made most of it for you. You were just in the position to herd us into doing it for you.
Without a working class in the UK the middle class is seeing itself tumble, so doesn’t each sovereign nation need to accept what constitutes it’s backbone? A working class working. Patients, students, congregation etc for the middle class. Up until now we’ve all been letting some poor peasants abroad do the heavy lifting and it’s too skewed. Please let them decouple I dare them!
Some guy says Indias the future. There is this massive market for mobile phones. Sorry to say more chance to have a phone in India than a toilet.
When they decouple do we still outsource? Could we still afford to? Do the toilet less dalits start getting calls from the call centres?
I would think it obvious as nations we all need to have some internal stability but if the game theorist/playing middle class want to play their part, then I think there will be a need for a concept of sharing to raise it’s unfashionable head.
A little contrition before you rattle the beasts cage.
I think it’s just forgotten here sometimes how many ‘individual’ problems we face, Greedy Bankers are a big part of it, but if you take them all out tomorrow and shoot them, you still have (1) declining demographics, (2) declining moral values, (3) declining resources, (4) declining climate (for whatever reason), and (5) declining diversity in the ecosphere.
A lot of these things can’t be worked out by some agreement between people. In fact, only point number (2) above could be resolved in this way. And that would be difficult at best.
Sorry if that isn’t new, but I don’t see how anyone can do more than just ‘spin’ all of these things, they’re pretty much out of our control..
Frances is the only person so far with the foresight and intellect to dis-rail “normal” thinking processes ,… ; ) Dedo
Francis don’t hold a candle to Steller and her maw.
Go Nigel Farage! You rock!
Infamous Euroskeptic Nigel Farage Goes Nuts In European Parliament, Tells A Little Too Much Truth http://www.zerohedge.com/article/infamous-euroskeptic-nigel-farage-goes-nuts-european-parliament-tells-little-too-much-truth
Yen Surges to 15-Year High vs US Dollar http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-08/rubber-drops-as-yen-surges-to-15-year-high-shares-slump-on-growth-concern.html
German factory orders, adjusted for seasonal swings and inflation, fell 2.2 percent from June, when they surged a revised 3.6 percent, the Economy Ministry in Berlin said yesterday. It’s the biggest drop since February 2009.
@cultamerica
Entropy creates as well as destroys…
Calvinism has heavily influenced US culture since the Europeans (specifically the English) landed here. The pilgrims were kicked out of Holland because the reasonably tolerant Dutch just couldn’t take the whackos. “American exceptionalism” and Manifest Destiny have their roots in colonial Calvinism. I think it is a sick perversion of Christianity, but that is just my opinion.
Time to get out some good rock from the ’60s, while I sharpen the ol’ guillotine… think I will start with “For What Its Worth” (Somethin’ happenin’ over there…”
@ Frances is the only person so far with the foresight and intellect to dis-rail “normal” thinking processes
well Dedo that’s only because she/he has stopped the mass postings about SDR’s
M. Lytle,
Entropy…could you help explain that to me.
Rumor has it we started out as beaming single celled creatures, and find ourlselves here and now typing with more than two fingers at a time, we lucky ones anyway. As this simpleton sees it, we are going places that are a mighty bit finer than this. That don’t look like no entropy to me!
@Mark, chArles, and bel-ami,… The only crux I have with your opinions, is they’re either stagnant or retrospective,… try, (as chArles has stated) to bring something new to the table !
Frances is the only person so far with the foresight and intellect to dis-rail “normal” thinking processes ,… ; )
@WL
The are equally powerful forces attempting to divide everyone and the spoils.
We will have to pick and choose when, where of if we give up sovereignty
and we will have to make choices when others try divide us.
It will not be as simple as you suggest.
@Wahrheit
Thanks for the link.
Singsong
“If you thought that you were making your way
To where the puzzles and pagans lay
I’ll put it together, it’s a strange invitation”
Beck/Jackass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9MwOhoZ0xc
@anyone who hasn’t figured out
how to use the scroll wheel on
their mouse.
http://www.dailykos.com/
I hear they censor LIBERALLY yonder.
;p
A cool headed max for a change. But I would disagree, it is only when the masses take to the field that any impetus for structural change can occur. then yes a section of the middle classes usually breaks off seeing that they can better protect their interests with the poeple rather than the aristocracy/oligarchy. If I was being nasty I wuld say they insinuate themselves with the popular movement. Wolfe Tone, the Irish middle class revolutionary write well about this process back inthe day when he sought help for revolutionary France to remove the entrenched ascendancy in Ireland. And finally this fight is never clean and nice. Now ruling class has ever surrendered theur privilage without a very vicious and violent war. If the revolutionary forces win they winner get a chance to restructure the economy, if they loose the get executed.
Anyone have a reasonably short synopsis of the topic of decline of empires handy?
Looking for a good link…
It’s a Christian document, probably slightly biased, but a quick scan, I didn’t see anything major I disagreed with except too much emphasis on sexual mores, which are hard to quantify.
@Youri:
What? No blood?
Is this Max’s Revolution of Millionares against Billionaires?
Or by middle class is he talking about those economic house n**gers who thought they were riding high on the coat tails of those ponzi schemes?
And there I was thinking they only ever stifled debate and skewed consensus (the sponge that can absorb inertia) with political correctness. Dare anyone raise dissent when working class jobs went East. Not to say chunks of working class ‘sold out’ (what a quaint phrase?) too.
The above is from a UK perspective going back close to 40 years and the dockers strike. The start of globalization with the move to container shipping.
House prices were rising so everything was dandy. Now middle class jobs are flying and they are waking up. These prodigal son’s better not think they’re the vanguard.
The old working class were turned away at the gate. Middle class students didn’t want to hear it from old duffers who couldn’t articulate with a sublety for post modern feminism. Decadent socialist who focused on gay rights and ethnicity issues (however worthy) weren’t expecting to be one day standing in line for turnips.
Soimetime I think with their soft underbelly the middle class is that giant squid or just a sponge protecting through their procastination the so called mythical (all knowing all controlling) elites.
I may be wrong.
worth a read, 6 pages
@Gordo
Of course we all have inconsistencies and we “change” over time. That doesn’t mean those inconsistencies should be ignored.
Max now feigns “the common man” and wants to rise up against Wall Street.
Wall Street, Corporations and politicians are the expendable soldiers, hollow, quickly replaced and transformed by the real powers. A collective of globalist elites have extorted this system to its near death and now plan a new one. The game is changed, you are not even aware of it.
Know your enemy… the head of the snake ,,,, 10th level maggots
Beard’s swipe was probably at me…cool, Chucky
Actually, it was cultamerica who set me off. And it’s not personal.
Listen Chuck. The bankers are sneaky bastards. They love to lie low with their dough while we argue about angels on a pinhead.
Yes, I stay on target while some people get distracted.
Go ahead and ignore me. As a consistent libertarian, I have often requested an “Ignore” on blogs so people could tune me out if they wish.
The life cycle of empires and America’s destiny…
http://www.lionofjudah1.org/Apologeticspdf/The%20Life%20Cycle%20of%20Empires%20and%20America%20040904%202nd%20draft%2008.pdf
Oil Contango Doubles in 2011 Recovery Betting With Frontline Ship Demand http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-07/oil-contango-doubles-in-2011-recovery-betting-with-frontline-ship-demand.html
@ Tao
“Actually, we had all of the same problems before the Fed was formed to provide a government scapegoat for the banksters’ misdeeds ”
sorry mate, tis a lost cause with Beard, he/she has it’s little narrative and shan’t change it….”Fractural reserve Lending is the Bane of civil society, we must repeant a seek out Jesus or common stock”…
Beard’s swipe was probably at me…cool, my advice is do as I do, there is whole swaths of comments I no longer bother reading because the poster has failed to bring anything new to the table…or actually in a couple cases became more biligerant than they once were when they notice their comments fail to illicit the same response levels they use to….I’ve came to believe old Super Geek/SG was right about the level of developement of the bloggers on this site, it stops at a certian level and never progresses
@Talcott,
That Freddie King rocks! Thanks.
@Tao,
I did not even mention the Fed. The problem is that banks issue credit redeemable in the government enforced monopoly money supply. They thus issue credit in OTHER people’s good and services making them in effect, thieves.
Yes, the Fed is not the whole problem. I never said it was.
What do you do as a lion when you get bored: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW_x-2MXrkI
@F. Beard,
“Youse people with your deep philosophical explanations irritate me. Our problems can be traced backed to systematic, government backed violation of “Thou shall not steal” by the banking cartel. ”
Actually, we had all of the same problems before the Fed was formed to provide a government scapegoat for the banksters’ misdeeds. While the Fed as constituted is a major problem (mainly in how it is killing savers), it is more than a major distraction from other, more pressing problems that are pushing us towards neo-feudalism. The Fed is just one tool for accomplishing that.
@Daruka
Once again you respond to me in a manner only worthy of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrF5x1OSJuQ&playnext=1&videos=GPy5M-Bpf44
Do you hate the hebrew language? Why?
And really must you only post white boys that wish
they had created the artform they profit from?(not that I don’t think Jeff is an excellent artist)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDxRVboQg-s
I’m assuming you mean the same folk who have for centuries, planned and initiated most of the significant world events, to date,… Dedo
The LORD nullifies the counsel of the nations;
He frustrates the plans of the peoples.
The counsel of the LORD stands forever,
The plans of His heart from generation to generation. Psalm 33:10-11 (New American Standard Bible)
@WL
Seriously you need to read between the lines a little.
Or, at least go create your own site and spread your agenda as you like to say.
You know put it out there. Once you do that you will soon see people pointing out your “inconsistencies”. It is very easy to attack someone that is willing to put their opinions out there.
…It is more likely that his brother Randolph sired them since Jefferson saw blacks as intellectually inferior to whites – which they are. Oglethorp
He who despises his neighbor lacks sense, but a man of understanding keeps silent. Proverbs 11:12 (New American Standard Bible)
YES YES YES!!! It is about time you sounded rike a man ready to fight and stand your ground instead of running to paris rike a croissont sissyboy. dat is how a max weally woll. finally a max to be proud of.
So many shoots fired. A equal amount of misses.
Cannot see the forrest for all the trees.
Think the error is in the people or the system, when it is in our culture.
Unless we change the fundamentals of our ways a revolution will only pathe the way for new tyrants
@F.Beard “Yep. It will make their downfall all the more interesting to watch.”
I’ll try not to laugh,.ah hum
When you say “their” downfall, I’m assuming you mean the same folk who have for centuries, planned and initiated most of the significant world events, to date,…
You are quite silly sometimes Beardy,..but cute ! ; )
Nigel Farage .. brilliant …
Infamous Euroskeptic Nigel Farage Goes Nuts In European Parliament, Tells A Little Too Much Truth
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/infamous-euroskeptic-nigel-farage-goes-nuts-european-parliament-tells-little-too-much-truth
For your entertainment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE&feature=related
There’s no proof that Thomas Jefferson was the father of Sally Hemings’ children. It is more likely that his brother Randolph sired them since Jefferson saw blacks as intellectually inferior to whites – which they are. When he died, some of his slaves were freed, others were allowed to leave the estate, others were auctioned to pay off debts.
Also related to recent books about the collapse of complex societies….
Satellites Record Weakening North Atlantic Current Impact 15 April 2004, (Ocean Motion) http://oceanmotion.org/html/impact/climate-variability.htm
People don’t want to think about entropy, they believe in certain perceived structures as determining outcomes.
These are structures in turn supported by other structures
And then these are structures in turn supported by other structures
ad nauseum…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_entropy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_entropy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_ecology
chArles,
Sometimes we should just let reality speak for itself.
Take care
WL: Gotcha….
@MirrorMirror
That’s very interesting. Good find!
From a 2003 article http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?cid=9986&pid=12455&tid=282
“Computer models simulating ocean-atmosphere climate dynamics indicate that the North Atlantic region would cool 3° to 5° Celsius if Conveyor circulation were totally disrupted. It would produce winters twice as cold as the worst winters on record in the eastern United States in the past century. In addition, previous Conveyor shutdowns have been linked with widespread droughts throughout the globe.”
Government decides to split Anglo Irish into two entities
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0908/breaking10.html
Youse people with your deep philosophical explanations irritate me. Our problems can be traced backed to systematic, government backed violation of “Thou shall not steal” by the banking cartel. The reason the Commies did not succeed is because they retained central banking among other serious flaws.
PS@Old Farmer’s Almanac: Global cooling to continue…
Sorry to throw that in …. please don’t start discussion this theme again … please !
Forgive Typoes, I gave up on Syntax and formal grammatical structures …peferring stream of conciousness writting when I am blurbing at work
Old Farmer’s Almanac: Global cooling to continue
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100908/ap_on_re_us/us_old_farmer_s_almanac
Most of humanity lives in Asia and India. It is normal that USA became a world power only by accident. No strong enemies and minimal government and military spending. This is not the case today. The USA exception is long gone. It’s normal that the center is now gravitating where it always was in the first place: Asia and India. USA has to downsized and admit that you cannot dominate the world with 300 million population when China has 1,3 billion. It’s that simple. Americans will have to accept the center of the Universe will be less and less the USA. As for Europe, it’s glory days are long gone. It’s not the end of the world. It’s normal that the Centre is where there is the most world population. It’s not the menace. The menace is the FED criminals and the militaries like in South-America.
@ cultamerica
I with respect disagree…I think Max Weber got some of it right with his linkage of Calvinism burning through Europe and the success and spread of Capitolism…there was several hundred years of from the pulpit indoctrination across Europe of this strange brew of Christianity…
I will conceed that with any template whether it is Marx or Weber, or Durkhiem or modern Pot Structuralism/Deconstruction whatever we use to explain large compelexities e are forcing all data streams into a perspective and often we over reach….but this doesn’t completely negate the information we gather from doing this
I think Weber is right to document Calvanism with the growth of Protastantnism and Capitolism success….it has been benificual to me in understanding some complex problems of class, race and history of my society
Have a look around and you’ll be able to see quite the quantum leap in the logistical capabilities of todays elite and their coterie !
: ) Dedo
Yep. It will make their downfall all the more interesting to watch.
@Talcott
Stick your goddam hebrew crap up your ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rtp9ESo19A&feature=related
Basel Capital Ratio Compromise Reached, Zeitler Says http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-08/bank-regulators-compromise-on-capital-rules-in-10-year-plan-official-says.html
Cardholders Prefer Debit as Credit-Card Use Falls, Javelin Says http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-08/cardholders-prefer-debit-as-credit-card-use-falls-javelin-says.html
@ WL
I’ve never heard Max mock either the middle class or the Constitution.
Subprime 2.0 Is Coming Soon to Suburb Near You: Edward Pinto http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-08/subprime-2-0-is-coming-soon-to-suburb-near-you-commentary-by-edward-pinto.html
1969
Ain’t it amazing all the people I meet
Got a revolution Got to revolution
One generation got old
One generation got soul
Jefferson Airplane/Volunteers
http://s0.ilike.com/play#Jefferson+Airplane:Volunteers:34260:s309644.8082068.5953872.0.1.66%2Cstd_0087a489db7b166ffed3080a109cae80
1979
Revolution rock, I am in a state of shock
So bad, bad rock, this here revolution rock
TheClash/Revolution Rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrIvLvzxV48
1988
Got no love for politicians
Or that crazy scene in D.C.
It’s just a power mad town
But the time is ripe for changes
There’s a growing feeling
That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due
Queensryche/Revolution Calling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzHJ3d4e5XU
1999
Rise through the jungle mist
Clenched to smash power
So cancerous
Black flag and a red star
A rising sun loomin
over Los Angeles
Yes for Raza livin in LA LA
like Gaza
On to the dawn Intifada
Reach for the lessons
The mask passed on
Seize the metropolis
Its you its built on
Everything can change on a new years day
Rage Against the Machine/War Within a Breath
http://s0.ilike.com/play#Rage+Against+The+Machine:War+Within+A+Breath:72652:s1242804.8118441.11570199.0.1.56%2Cstd_a2d15cfb5ce7fe9244bf10ad84efbbad
מַה־שֶּֽׁהָיָה הוּא שֶׁיִּהְיֶה וּמַה־שֶׁנַּֽעֲשָׂה הוּא שֶׁיֵּעָשֶׂה וְאֵין כָּל־חָדָשׁ תַּחַת הַשָּֽׁמֶשׁ׃
Indeed Dedo there is nothing new under the sun.
Peak America was an idea that never made it to shore. This plantation is what it was always meant to be, a lie, but a glorious one. The only problem to this day, is that those who should know better don’t.
@ The Constitution (from a 10 to 12 genration American)
It’s a purdy piece of paper drawn up by the dominant Merchant and Mercantile folks to protect their spoils….as my boy ole Adam Smith made clear in that little book Wealth of Nation’s
“Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defence of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all.”
I know I know we must’n say it, that the GREATEST DOCUMENT EVER CRAFTED BY G-D’s MIND was just a crimp sheet to protect a group of people’s spoils, but alas, if you actually read REAL history you quickly learn that the Constitution did not spring forth from Zeus’s mind complete. That the Articles of Confederation wasn’t garbage, but was BAD FOR BIDDNESS for a certain segment of society, Merchant’s in the north, Land Speculators, and Southern Gentry were chaffing and not able to Properly exploit their respected positions…I’m not saying that I am not partial to certain segments, Free Speech, Religious Freedom, Security in my self and possessions, and I like Guns too as all good ole boy’s do
Just I don’t idealize that which never was, I am more partial to what old Lincoln did by pulling the old “switch a roo” when he was staring down 25k-50K dead at Gettysburg Lincoln pulled out a piece of Revolutionary Agit-prop and reset our founding on The Declaration of Independence…which up until 1862 was truly a minor document…so I find the words
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
That’s cool, not some Document that breaks up how the spoils are to be laid out, and those words are more crucial now than anything you would find in the Constitution.
@Marc
Are you friends and business partner with a Rothschild cousin?
Zac Goldsmith, son of James Goldsmith corporate raider with Soros, brother Ben Goldsmith married to Kate Emma Rothschild.
How about a childhood friend like Alec Baldwin.. Film narrator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Nq9SqNIJo
Do you have 5-10 million to move to France at will.
Until Max criticizes these elitist global Maggots, he is a fraud. He is an Elitist, economic, intellectual and cultural.
This is the plan of these elitist Maggots… Global Governance.
Oops, David Rothschilds should have used his inside voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtudNpL30BU
Wow – touch crowd here – lol
I’m not sure we should assume that a revolution has to be violent or immediate. It will more likely be subtle and stealth.
Enlightenment takes time. It’s transitional. As people of all classes (whatever that means) become more aware of their enslavement, I believe a natural rejection of said will occur by way of non-violent, non compliance, little by little. It’s already begun. drip drip drip…
Maybe that’s naive, and I’m sure violent riots will break out for those that want to mix it up but most will just go their own way.
Let’s start now.
Spoken like a true Patriot Max. Yes, our American Democracy, Independence and Freedom embodied in our American Constitution mean more to us citizens than the Totalitarian New World Oder by World Bankster and Big Oil.
American Main Street Capitalism, Free Enterprise and Competitive Market will be our salvation, but first we have to bring the criminals to Justice, which means Revolution.
Fed Banks: `Widespread Signs of a Deceleration’ in Economy http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-08/fed-banks-saw-widespread-signs-of-deceleration-in-u-s-economic-growth.html
When Max was asking about what all of your ‘Peak America’ moments were, my way of thinking would be to relate it to the moment of peak (effective) organization (maximum useful order). Which is not necessarily correlated exactly or perfectly with the happiest time or the best demonstrated morality. But maybe close…
That would have been the point of lowest entropy.
Only lost Mark due to the base simplicity of it man,
but thanks,
simpleton
@ Max
Name ta next Show
“Hiest of ta History”
Homebuilders Revive Stalled U.S. Projects as Banks Unload Lots http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-08/homebuilders-revive-stalled-u-s-projects-as-banks-unload-lots-at-discount.html
Tas like 3 mill a day WTF ??
I read somewhere tat a Fuck face got a bonus of 4 or 2 billion dollars in tee banker bailout fer 2 Ears
Is any freakin mind werth 3 mill on a Sat/ Sun
People.
Empires (and their elites) are like stars in the sky. The small ones are more stable, eventually they burnout or are engulfed by something larger.
Huge giant stars burn incredibly hot and fast, and have _very_short life spans. Then they literally blow themselves to bit’s in a supernova.
It’s all about ordered systems and entropy.
The bigger the structure and the more tight it is, at it’s peak, the more you’ overshoot the mean’ towards _maximum_ entropy on the other side.
This works with every ordered system.
But this point will be lost on many here…too abstract….
@Daruka
Wal Mart will soon announce it’s moving its headquarters to Dubai.
Hey I see in the future. So did you enjoy in the United Slaves of America your Labor Campt Day ? Enjoy Coca Cola.
I don’t know why most of you idiots keep referring to the past collapse of empires,..
Have a look around and you’ll be able to see quite the quantum leap in the logistical capabilities of todays elite and their coterie !
: )
@Geek Boy’s Revenge ….. Good oul’ Afshin Rattansi is at it again. What a legend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x2MaqVz0ZU&feature=sub
Yes, I think is one of the few “real” MSM journalists left.
Max should invite him for a show IMO !
@chArels,
While I will always remain the lowliest of students, I think you have a long way to go on your understandint of J. Calvin. You mix J.C. w/ the prostituted hyperCism. Thats like assocating J.C. with budism, or scientology dude. That makes for nice chat but it don’t meet the facts. Calvinism has had squat to do with we gringos. Think J.Wesley. While the Puritans may have started the show, the city on the hill got overgrown quick, the state and the true expression of Puritan values (which have never been realized) never got sorted out imho. Why lay it on J.C. when the perverted hyperC is just raw human greed seen stepping on heads, and has a presence in almost every single denomination in this country?
You want a culprit, look to Arminius and clan, he is the father of the “me” America. America is Arminian, J.C. got the boot long ago, as did “love thy neighbor”, and yes, you mix some hyperC w/ a load of J.Arminius you end up with American Protastantism Inc., you see the tythe plate coming?
If yer a millionare IE
“He is an economist”
No, hes a media pundit.
To become a billionare ya gotta Cheat Kill some peeps period
Seems to me Keiser didn´t just read Aristotle but also understood.
Don’t think Jefferson gave here slave maitresse freedom. Hey Dedo and WL. Max and Stacy are not Bill Gates, the Koch Brothers or Ted Turner eugenist scum. They are just a little bit too green for their own good. I have these greenies in my family too. They think nuclear energy is Satan and wind mills and electric cars are ecological.
Gold futures climb past $1,260 on Globex http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-futures-climb-past-1260-on-globex-2010-09-08
@Ptah
I was responding to a comment by Geek Boy’s Revenge, I was on the fly should have referenced it better.
“The point is, is he’s on my side, and I for one are f**king happy he is.” Geek Boy’s Revenge
@Yourkarma
What is it with you folks and your love of growth.
You ridicule us in Europe for having zero populatin growth.
We consider it good. IN fact, quality of life far exceeds anything in the USA where people work their fingers to the bone to keep a roof over their heads and spit out kids that will never get a decent education grade 1-12.
What kind of future is that?
@WL and Dedo
You have to be tolerant. We all have our contradictions, terrible ones sometimes. Thomas Jefferson was madly in love with a black woman slave. He made here a lot of babies. Naturally he never married heres or gave here freedom. Today the white part the Jefferson family refuses even today to admit the fact that there is black branch of the Jefferson family. Such is human nature. Reding you folks we have the impression that Max and Stacy are now part ot the Koch family. Come on ! Lay off with your exxagerations.
Economists at the Royal Bank of Scotland have downgraded their world growth estimate for 2011 for a second time http://www.marketwatch.com/story/global-us-growth-view-for-2011-cut-by-rbs-2010-09-08
In other words, do a system’s analysis of empire breakdowns of the past. What happened to them? How did what happened relate to their size or overall dominance. What happened to the elites?
That’s the perspective that gives the most insights…
@Marc
Could be, I really don’t know his motivations. Naive? perhaps.. but he is very intelligent.
He claimed to be middle class in that vid…. He is not… he has a history of mocking the American middle class.
He claims that America needs to get back to its founding principles.. What are those ,,,, Max… couldn’t be the Constitution since you mock it so often.
So Max, what are those principles?
This weekend only at Walmarts across the USA.
Toilet paper HALF PRICE!! only one side used.
Beat the stampede (literally) shop early. maximum 100 rolls per custome
@ Lunacy
Max has never faultered in my opinion He has always held his beliefs based on available News/Info If yer gonna be sooo Cynical do a fuckin rain check on yer own life
To Doubt him is a real tradergy IMO
Yesterday day had worries but today worries fade!?? Come on now, don’t call me a fool!
Gold futures edge from record high as worries fade http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-futures-dip-as-europe-worries-fade-2010-09-08
aahahahahaahah!
Wl: of course max is on maxis side… He is an economist. Has he ever Said he is anything else?
You expose your naivity with such comments and undermine the greater contribution you could be making.
Middle class… Working class… Them… Us… Terms of reference vomited into the void and ultimately meaningless. What Max does his share his thinking with an audience. Consider how many economists choose not to share.
@WL
My feeling is that the Rothchild’s and others like that won’t be able to control the breakdown past a certain point. This is the largest empire in history and it’s going down, hard. I think it will shred. Those globalists have the resources to out wait the rest of us, but anything proactive they want to do for their own self interest will probably also be ‘pushing on a string’ at some point.
The real problem is that if you push one set of jackasses over, another takes it’s place later. I think the global system unwinds chaotically, and some current elites go away with it. Others will arise, later, totally different.
I’m sure there were powerful elites and (behind the scenes) ruling families in ancient Rome too. Nothing of them survived past the dark ages. They probably lasted a little while longer than their plebian co-horts, but not much.
Put another way, if our Hosts were aligned with such people, I’m not sure there would be any ‘long term’ benefit in it.. so I tend to dismiss it at a certain level..
Wow, the mechanics of the great game of dominance hasn’t got a chance! I see more promise within the last 50 comments than pervious months.
Under a monetary system the bar of civility is set so low, that we could all suit up in the latest “Hurt Locker” outfit and clear it easily. “We are treated as serfs instead of like shareholders of a common project”
Expecting something different within a monetary system just will not happen; if it was going to happen it would of happened long before the collapse of the British empire.[What! You want trot out John Keynes, Central Banking, IMF, Bretton Woods, Sarbanes - Oxley or heaven, forbid Milton Friedman?] We often engage in the process of right handed people trying to blame left handed people. Poor to rich, it simply does not matter, the “monetary” continuum cannot be “fixed”, cannot be regulated. It makes democracy a farce. Going forward the point here is, we do not have to perfect, just much better.
real change will come when a TONA is enacted in the US.
Support the Titles of Nobility Amendment, google tona2009 and sign the petitions of intention today.
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, foreign power, or secret society, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”
Problems solved.
You cant have an honest govt without transparency of loyalty.
Where do we send the traitors to the republic? How about the bottom of a rope?
I hate to piss on all your fires,…but I’m afraid WL is bang on the money !
mAx has actually told folk on air ,.LOL,.and most of you numbnuts never pick it up,.hahaha,…
Any way,..must move on,…I’ve got a stitch : )
I’m not sure about the middle class Max, all i’ve seen that they have achieved over the last 30 years is a successfull co-opting of their own language so no-one actually knows what they are talking about and what they are even thinking with the interesting by product of having disenfranchised the working class from all participation in modern culture apart from the aping of pond life celebrities. As i see it the cynicism of the middle class in pursuit of their careers over the last 30 years has led to a cultural dead end and i’m not sure if the middle class are capable of even seeing this. The only activity they are now capable of is producing babies and giving them designer names so i think really a cultural seismic shift is required for something to happen. Or mass destitution.
Good oul’ Afshin Rattansi is at it again. What a legend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x2MaqVz0ZU&feature=sub
@WL
He is just naive. He makes me think sometimes about certain physicist working on the Manhattan project and kidding themselves that them personnally were just doing it for science. Greens are like that. Like Communists. Some really believe in the cause. It’s nice to believe in cause like having a clean environnement.. But you are plain fucking dumb when the same cause is used by Nazis bastards like Obeyourmamatalibanana, Al Capone Gore, BP, Goldman Sachs and the Roschild. Call him naive liberal and tree hugger.
@ Max /Stacy
How Close am I
LOLOLOLOL
ROFL
Hic
I am very good wit numbers
lolololololool
ROFL
Hic
@ Geek Boy’s Revenge
I agree wit yas I Estimate Max is werth Errrr Emmmm 20 mill or more
Alex Jones is is 40 mill
But I still Like tee fact that Max coulda become a Billionare if he Wanted
Same wit AJ tey know fer a fact tear Kids gonna see the sh!t tat tey helped set up I tink Errrr Errr Emmm
@Max … “his wife should divorce him” ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4u-sNR02vg
I get your point, but I personally think his wife is worse !
@ Charles
I like your analysis, a lot of people don’t really like to talk about class for a myriad of reasons.
I think it is important to identify the structures and mechanisms that operate within any given society, to know where you are within it, in order to see what your options are, and/or to determine if you have any (options)!
U.S. sells 10-yr debt at lowest yield in 20 months http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-sells-10-yr-debt-at-lowest-yield-in-20-months-2010-09-08
@ Mother Earth
Its the nuke waste I am worried about how Secure is that ???
Screw the actual process of generatin Energy
And Patrick or who ever He has a valid reason
Hic
(OPEC) produced an average of 29.11 million barrels a day in August, 110,000 barrels less than an estimated 29.22 million barrels a day in July http://www.marketwatch.com/story/opec-pumps-2911-mln-bbls-of-oil-a-day-in-august-2010-09-08-132620
This is also a Soupy sales show
Crude turns higher as global outlook recovers http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crude-oil-futures-dip-on-supply-concerns-2010-09-08
aahahahahahahhh!
@Marc @Mark
I gave Max a pass for long while until I realized that everything he advocates actually benefits the “elites”. Either he is a “useful idiot” or “willful conspirator”.
The elite class is not just economic but can be intellectual and cultural.
Has Max ever spoken out against the “Power Elite class”? The Rothschilds with an estimated half of the global wealth…
Until Max goes after the real global powers he is a clown Apparatchik for the elites.
Max is not on your side, he is on “Maxs” side.
I don’t care if Max is middle-class, lower-class, upper-class, class-clown or no class. The point is, is he’s on my side, and I for one are f**king happy he is.
@Max
You didn’t want to invite him in so you did the interview on the parking lot?
@@Bonn
Still very sceptical about going to the plane stuff and also about the sun flare scare of 2012.
Still studying the weather but everything about the weather is being put under a magnifying glass today tnx to the IPCC climate scamsters.
It’s not that we hadn’t have very cold winters or very warm summers before. It’s just nobody cared about it and accepted it just as it was, mother nature.
Now with those control freaks around who try to scam us in all kinds of disasters to empty our and fill their pockets everything is tak’n out of proportion.
@Bonn
Yep, saw the Gizamap stuff TnX. Especialy enjoyed the camelot interview which was very exciting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxN6cL4wAfk
I enjoy this site and Max’s rants. I give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s complex and it’s possible I wouldn’t agree with some of his core positions, but I don’t expect to agree with anyone 100% anyway.
If something he says is helpful to others, that’s mostly all that matters.
@WL
Let’s say it’s upper middle class. I don’t consider a person having 5 or 10 million dollars of assets being part of Goldman Sachs gang. A small business entrepreneur with real skin in the game, with a couple of millions in the game, is not a rich dude. He is in reality much much closer to the mythical middle class than you can believe. And in today’s Nazi globalist world be ruined overnight and find himself less than middle class. Small business today is hell. Yeah even in theory you are worth a couple of millions.
@ Max,
The more I learn and become aware of what is really going on the more frustrated I get and the more angry I get with people around me who are blind by “choice” ……..
Got the video by Schechter on “Plunder, the crime of our time” it’s very good and I heard the interview with Danny on Keiser Report. I’m lending it out to people I know…..who are open.
But I pissed off all the time about how unaware people are. I am frustrated beyond imagination. I live here.
@sao
I m not American, but have spent a fair amount of time in the US recently,,,
I understand the emotions, but I do not blame the American people rather their elitist economic, cultural and intellectual handlers. This destruction is by design, Americans are the victims. The elite power class are the fucking problem, they caused it and blame the victims to restructure the system
with even more power.
Max accurately points out the symptoms but never ever acknowledges the real cause.
Does anybody actually believe Max is middle class?
@ Tao
thanks for your kind words…just wish I could see the possibility for change that you can see….but maybe that is just my disposition in life…if you have time here is a link to New Zealand radio there is a great interview with Joe Bageant a guy who stole my act of Good ole boy crumudgeon…well that was gona be my act later in life when I finally hit my 60′s
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/20100831
I think Joe does right by my Cracker breathern in trying to understand where there are and how they got there in life….my Cracker breathern are the tip of the Empires spear now, and will be the billy club used to beat down future internal revolts
Gerald Celente coming up the AJS NOW!!! With Paul Joseph Watson http://www.infowars.com/
“kind of people” meant to say…typing too fast.
I think Max is disgusted with the stupidty of the American people and there’s plenty of that to go around. The problem is that the American people have been lied to for at least the last 30 years. Not only that, the American people have been poisoned, ravaged through vaccines which cause ADD, Autism and host of other health issues that make the current population not able to be the kind of who founded this country. We also have not been educated in this country. Schools are there to make sure children become useful cogs, controlled and dumbed down.
Max is not middle class, he has had the good fortune of good genetics and a good education, he does not suffer fools easily…but he loves his country or what it once was. He is frustrated with the slow response of the American people……maybe it’s too late. I hope not.
WL is cool just young maybe.
@sao,
“Why waste my time with your bullshit.”
WL isn’t wasting your time. If you see a comment from “WL” with his cool blue-black avatar, skip it. Voila! No time wasted.
Good Work @Mother
Max is no phony else I know nothing about people. And would Stacy love him like a puppy if he was?
@WL
If you think Max is a fraud, why waste your time coming to his site. Why waste my time with your bullshit.
I trust no one, but I find Max refreshing, knowledgeable and courageous. Not many take on the crooks like Max does. He has great guests and shares his experiences.
I am American, I live in America and I am losing my status as middle class.
The average American is an idiot, brain washed, immoral, joke. Those parts that I share with these drones are parts I am trying to grow out of and shred. America does a huge amount of damage to the world. A great deal of us are sick of it, but the system is in place and difficult to dismantle.
So, WL, if you think Max is a fraud, try someplace else. Because your whining SUCKS.
@chArles,
I always find your comments interesting and often educational. My foray into the social sciences was entirely unexpected and has expanded far beyond what I could have imagined, but you keep forcing the inquiry wider with references to people like Max Weber, who until now I did not have much interest in reading.
What the middle class does will largely turn on how deep and long the current economic depression goes. And how much more “in your face” and out in the open the Wall Street banksters get with their criminal actions for which nobody goes to jail. (Crime apparently does pay, and quite handsomely.)
Guardian
They call Max a “radical activist”. How about a true American Patriot.
The paradox on this planet is,that somebody,cant deside if they have to by tree Mercedes and 2 Porche and a private jet or two,a sommerhouse in Vestindia or Dubai,sending there ofspring to Yale or Oxford!
At the same time,kids in the 3or 4th world(where that might be,consedering? we all live at the same planet) is eating dirt and slaving for the very same elite,that are trying to destroy this planet!
But even worse,is this middelclass,serving as idiots for these masters,in there selfproclamed wars,against an enemy,they invented in the time of the crusades,and it still goes on!This is, there God(greed) against Allah!
All I know for sure is that Keiser is long gold and he loves UCLA women (or woman, rather).
MAX! Your the Man!!!
@WL,
I disagree. One of the subjects that seem to bother Max a lot is the cultural aspect of the current state of affairs and its corrupting element. Wouldn’t you mock your own people if they behaved in a totally irrational way by following utterly stupid political leaders and diminishing their intellectual capacities the way happening in America right now (try to watch American reality TV for a while; you’ll get it). My people are practicing similar policies; I mock them for what they believe in and what they do – nothing wrong with that if you ask me!
@WL,
“I agree with you 100%, but Keiser has constantly belittled and ridiculed the American people. He has no empathy for them. If you listen to Keiser long enough you begin to see the inconsistencies. This new little video was an attempt to gain “middle class” cred. He is a fraud.”
I can understand why you’d reach that conclusion, and you may be right.
That being said, I don’t think that ridiculing the American people necessarily indicates a lack of empathy for them. Empathy can lead to frustration and disappointment, which can be manifested as derision that creates emotional distance.
But I don’t know what’s in Max’s mind (other than he is long gold).
hello Tao
@ “Hating the poor is a form of self-affirmation for the middle class. ”
yes but not in a way that you seem to think…I think Max Weber got this right the success of Capitolism has more to do with Calvanism than it’s efficency which is what Marx would have said…Calvanism is why the Middle class has such a strong distaste of the Poor and is so Servile towards the Rich…”G-d hates the poor and Loves the Rich” since it doesn’t matter what you do in this life, you are either favored or not it doesn’t matter how you get it so long as you do…I truly believe a lot of American Society can be explained by it’s deep affinity towards Calvanism and Social Darwinism
@ now they’re content to cast blame for their plight according to their existing biases, but they’ll eventually figure out the real cause
as a Po White Boy from the South I long hoped that one day my breathern would wake up and realise the old game Masser Charlie was playing on them….they would look across the table and see their fellow working poor and working class black folk (also all “others’ Latino, Asian, Gay, Jew, Catholic, Female however we break ourselves up), as Brothers….they never do…My Cracker breathern bite at it everytime…just look at the dominant issues that are served up not the systemic theft of 13 trillion via the finacial fraud NOOOOO Muslims building a Mosque, Arizona immigration, won’t be surprised to see the Gay issue brought out closer to Novemeber
so if you think the middle class is gonna revolt against the powers they serve, they court I can’t see it…they will tolarate any form of tyranny so long as they are promised saftey against the Hordes that are enchroaching closer and closer to their little suburbia enclaves
I have talked to self identified Middle Class Folks hat are educated and sware that it was “Liar Loans” that collapsed the system…one of my favorite Professors knows the game but still wants it to be ginned up one more time, he is in his 60′s and just wants to get through the rest of his life in the realative comfort he currently enjoys…
“There just gatta be one more bubble”
I stick by my statement the Middle Class serves no function other than securing stability to an existing order…if the existing order is rotten to the core, the middle class will be the last to recognize it…Revolts come sorry folks but they come from the Educated Elite who have the leisure time needed to conteplate existing systems and alternatives…they then marshel the lower orders to the new paridigm
as a young boy who Liked Marx a lot and hoped for a Workers Revolt, I soon come to see the folly of this, the modern Working conditions habitulizes the individual worker to the demands of Heirachiacal structures, makes them subserviant/servile and infantizes them….the modern world does the same thing to all y’all precious Middle Class folks to
but the Middle Class has even more invested in the existing order than even the worker….so don’t expect change to come from them….when they do assert themselves it will to be to entrench further the existing system…Look who clamors most readily to Austerity Measures or Climate Change for those WING NUTS on this site now
Really big empires don’t just fail, they shatter.
The Humpty-Dumpty effect..
@WL Keiser a fraud
Every one is a fuckin phony, even Kieser. But there are good phonies and bad. I think that fuck keiser has his heart in the right place. I do support the fucker.
yes we all pick our prophets depending on what we think suits us. some pick jesus, some kant, some martians, some scientists, some ….. you may be right, I may missed the irony. nevertheless I think I got it right about the fact that some think they are better than others. Realism and pragmatism is this: sitting down and talking to “middle class”TM and “lowest classes”TM. believe me your categories do not fit the reality. those are imaginary labels someone have taught you in order to control you. of course maybe I’m being arrogant and cheeky and should find my place in society. If I learn to recite prophets I may advance the ranks.
@snoot
c’mon, man! thanks nonetheless. give me some food for thought. poems are all right. you pick up Rumi and see quantum physics written in between.
@Tao
I agree with you 100%, but Keiser has constantly belittled and ridiculed the American people. He has no empathy for them. If you listen to Keiser long enough you begin to see the inconsistencies. This new little video was an attempt to gain “middle class” cred. He is a fraud.
I can clearly see that when the bond bubble breaks, in the not to distant future, the unrest in the U.S. will grow dramatically. The poor and the middle class will be limited in their response by the poor financial position many are in. The job base will collapse fast, post bubble. Personal resources will be tight, will spending money on gas to a rally in D.C. seem cost effective at that time?
The power structure is nebulous. I think of that frustrated guy that flew his plane into the IRS office. He wanted to hit something, but he ended up killing people not much higher up the tree than he was.
The paradox is, that sure, once you’ve lost everything, it’s less difficult to commit to radicalism, even violence, but your effectiveness is limited by your resource base, too. Angry,recently impoverished people will have few real targets for their desperate responses.
More fireworks will come eventually from Elites vs Elites. But that won’t have anything to do with saving the Constitution.
Down the road a little farther, the republic goes fully bankrupt as the tax base dries up. Then it eventually goes regional…
Unsure of the behavior of the Military through this period. A coup is possible, but resources will be drying up everywhere, and I expect looting of Depots as a rich black market springs up.
This will be a time of “Revelation” as many hidden prior arrangements and rivalries are revealed. We won’t know some of this until the time comes..
@WL,
“Max is not American middle class.”
I am no longer in the middle class, but that’s where I came from, and that’s who I still identify with. I have no doubts that if I were born today under the same socio-economic circumstances that my chances of achieving the same level of success would be vastly diminished, and that bothers me. The middle class is the mechanism for socio-economic mobility, and it is being destroyed.
The bottom line is that you don’t have to be a member of the middle class at this moment to empathize with it.
“The radical activist Max Keiser has joined forces with the editor of the Ecologist magazine, Zak Goldsmith (Rothschilds family cousin)
Last night Mr Keiser said the hedge fund already had “several hundred thousand dollars” in it despite not yet being listed, and he was approaching several big banking figures, including George Soros , to increase the value.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20060912110316/business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,3604,1359203,00.html
The elite have basically announced there are no more mollifying crumbs forthcoming. So, yeah, it could get ugly. Tao
Yep. By portraying the national debt as a real problem to a nation that owes debt in its own sovereignly created money, they have painted themselves in a corner. Also, trillions for offense but not one cent for social spending is also bound to raise suspicions.
I lose my internet for 4 days and WL goes bonkers…Max is an entertainer quasi finacial anaylist don”t think he is part of the international communist/marxist.fascist/NAMBLA wing that haunts your and several others kook fantasies his feigning to be middle class is just part of the american schtick evryone from Wal-Mart baggers to President Bush Senior claims to be Middle Class…don’t you know that We have no Poor folks or Rich folks in America everyone is Mioddle Class
“Power comes out of the barrel of a gun” Mao
“Ideas determine which way those guns point.” some other guy or gal
The French Army, at one point, sided with the people during the French Revolution. UK troops swear allegiance to the Queen (tres sick!) while US troops swear to defend the US Constitution from enemies both foreign AND domestic.
@chArles,
“to believe that the Middle class will be the vangaurd of a new uprising is absolutely FOLLY…the middle class does not have the temperment to rebel and is so easily bought off with just a couple more sheckles or one more serving of porriage”
The middle class certainly has been conditioned to be servile, but that does not mean that they will remain so. I’ve found that members of the middle class are by far the most judgmental when it comes to the poor. I’ve always thought that this hostility came from a deep-seated understanding that they themselves were not that far away from being poor themselves, that they subconciously knew that a couple of bad breaks here or there, and they would be joining the welfare ranks (the dole). Hating the poor is a form of self-affirmation for the middle class.
Middle class servility is based on the belief that all you have to do to stay in the middle class is play fair and by the rules. Unfortunately, the game has changed, and people who have played by the rules find themselves sliding into poverty, or they know somebody who is. This is causing a lot of consternation among the middle class, and for now they’re content to cast blame for their plight according to their existing biases, but they’ll eventually figure out the real cause when they start looking up the socio-economic ladder instead of down it.
The elite have basically announced there are no more mollifying crumbs forthcoming. So, yeah, it could get ugly.
Max is right hang these guys they have killed a great country. Most Americans don’t support their wars for example. They have stolen from all of us.
CrossTalk: Double Dip Depression Doom?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhV_tGrecqc
I don’t normally listen to these MSM discussions, but William Engdahl is one of the guests … and therefore interesting.
The guy from HK agress with Engdahl .. as I do.
Have you noticed that lady is an absolute shill. Mother
Who is?
http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/cost-of-bailout-9-trillion-dollars-and-counting-banking-stockholm-syndrome-let-home-prices-fall/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DrHousingBubble-HowILearnedToLoveSocal+%28Dr.+Housing+Bubble+-+How+I+learned+to+Love+SoCal%29
@Dawg
Perhaps you missed the irony. Secondly, I am no fan of Immanuel Kant. The Reine Vernunft is a Konigsberg idyll. The middle class is largely disappearing into poverty or crowding into the vast private prison complex. Imprisonment for debt is already occurring. The electronically locked doors need to be opened by someone. I am sorry the most realistic part of the humor offended you. In fact, the arrogance you ascribe to me is refuted by my premise that the Middle Class could never win an enduring victory over the elite without allying itself with the lowest classes. Again, I would like to welcome you to realism. A realism the Rebels of 1848 ignored.
Nice,
Max is not American middle class and Max stated that America needs to get back to the principles on which the country was founded on like “THE CONSTITUTION”, surely not Max just trashes it at every opportunity.
So Max, what are those principles you describe?
Who exactly is the the enemy, the Wall Street Banks. Who controls the Wall Street Banks Max, the tenth level maggots like the Goldsmiths, Rothschilds, Rockefellers etc. THE elite class. Who has distorted and trashed the Constitution, The elites and the Statists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLOcZQheoE
Max what maggot level are you?
How many middle class Americans made 1 million per year, have friends like Zak Goldsmith and Alec Baldwin, can up and leave, move to France, support themselves, start a hedge fund. Don’t be such an ass, you are NOT middle class. You are a globalist elite wannabe, pushing for the take down of western economies.
You are acting like a shill for the elitist. You are a fraud.
@Max
Wow. great. agree! Very edgy! (get it)
(also great video with bicyclemark – the first 1/2 with Stacy was excellent)
@Patrick
“If you wish for peace, prepare for war.” This has been perverted by the elites to mean peace = war.
I’m not a lawyer and couldn’t argue the case but many crimes against humanity have been committed against populations for purposes of usery, wealth hoarding, and power. I agree that if we remove the existing people, new people would simply replace them. This is why it is so important that the changes be grass roots up.
My take on Max’s comment is simply that the power resides with the majority of the people, not the elite minority. The transformation can be peaceful or not and the choice is up to the elites, who CONTINUE to destroy real wealth to line their own pockets. The change will have to be from the grass roots up – meaning we are going to have to (and will) make sacrifices as well. The guillotine is the other option. It is rediculous to say this wont happen but I agree that it isn’t necessary.
@Bonn
Relax, most plants are self stopping. They won’t melt down because of the heat, but because of the way it is controlled. Most reactors have gravity as a backup to shut it down. I’m pretty sure EMP attacks are ineffectve.
@flicks
Her intention is to shift the blame on the public.
That was great Max even the backdrop of cement blocks was ominous! I hope thoe PTB start shaking in their boots!
http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/09/effects_of_an_emp_attack_or_se.html
Effects of an EMP Attack or Severe Solar Storm on Nuclear Power Plants,
The building that houses the spent fuel pools at nuclear power plants in this country is usually a simple building, with concrete sides and floors but usually with nothing but a thin, corrugated steel roof. This is the root of the problem. Just like the fuel in the reactor, the fuel assemblies in the spent fuel in pool must also be cooled. These pools have their own independent, multiply redundant systems for cooling, separate from the systems that cool the reactor core. However, these pool cooling systems can be cross-tied with the reactor cooling systems in an emergency. The water in the spent fuel pool must be continuously circulated through heat exchangers (again, like your car radiator)
“Have you noticed that lady is an absolute shill.”
She does speak as Arianna does but I think has come to realise that unless the main media ‘saturate’ the general public wont do anything. And Huffpost isn’t enough.
Arianna is well intentioned but moving from one bank to another is no answer so the bankesters have to be given a helping hand to blow themselves up hence I errr towards Max.
Thanks Max … If the “Middle” is, say $40k to 65K then evidence presents
children born into the “Middle” have a 36 % of moving higher, but hang on, they are also capable and more likely, to move lower 39%???
Want to move to the top 5%?? Well step right up, step right up, evidence presents that these children have a 1.7% chance of that. But then, why in hell would you want to be in that group?? … a tax cash cow for the government, despised by “the Lower”, the “Middle” and more over, the top 1.8% are wanting to eat you wealth for breakfast?
Shh!, Shh! here’s the plan, were fixin’ to buy all dips in precious metals and oil. As long as a few us survive, to hell with the rest … then if we make it trough, we can sign up for yet another 50 years of the same shit different day! Shh, Shh. Instead of starving the beast we are going feed it under the table.
Step right up! Something for the little lady? Something for the little lady? Man oh man, this is just stupid talking to stupid.
@ Dedo
Patrick Geryl:
The World Cataclysm in 2012:
Interview transcript
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/patrick_geryl_interview_en.html
Pls note what he has to say
Then all volcanoes in the whole world will go off immediately and after that, while the rotation of the Earth is stopping, you will have a tidal wave of more than 1-1/2 kilometers worldwide because…
Project Camelot interviews Patrick Geryl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd-cCeaKrOA
He says it aint a Good Idea to be underground or In a Mountain
You should be high Enough and Far away from Nuke Reactors
@Bonn,….The NORAD emblem,..doesn’t it look just like an owls head from a distance,…coincidence ?
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2009/06/26/ThreestorywelcometoCM.jpg
Here it is up close:
http://www.vorchester.com/vnews/images/norad.jpg
do you think “the lower classes” need you to open the gates for them. isn’t that a bit arrogant? what would your Kant say on that subject?
Max as the Danton or St. Just of this “Guillotine dream”?
I’d never say Marat. He was an opportunist. If one relies on the middle class they well might end up on the chopping block themselves.
I agree with Max on the need for revolt but feel that any effort is doomed without the support of the lowest classes. First act should be to open all the private contractor prisons and utilize the inmate’s well cultivated skills of developing weaponry.
Just a few Super-Nero type details from the dream of blood and chaos of a timid Bourgeois. (cf. Baudelaire)
@Bonn,…I’ve got a few spare security uniforms for the NORAD facility if you want to join me in 2012,..
Have got my fingers in a few pies,.. and loads of hotdogs ! : )
Max as the Danton or St. Just of this “Guillotine dream”?
I’d never say Marat. He was an opportunist. If one relies on the middle class they well might end up on the chopping block themselves.
I agree with Max on the need for revolt but feel that any effort is doomed without the support of the lowest classes. First act should be to open all the private contractor prisons and utilize the inmate’s well cultivated skills of developing weaponry.
Just a few Super-Nero type details from the dream of blood and chaos from a timid Bourgeois. (cf. Baudelaire)
@ Dedo
I am relocating in mid of 2012 to a place not in the Hymalayas but Closer to Bangalore its @ a Hieght of 2600 meters
There are Nuke Reacters near Hymalayas
So Scouting fer Locations as far away as possible from Nuke reactors
frances u tickled me here, so better get you bottom down here and pay you dues! or I’ll start selling CO3 and CO4 stocks to save humanity form humanity.
@ Dedo
What do you think I am doing
I am having Popcorn as well and watchin
LOLOLOLOLOL
ROFL
Hic
I have now my Weekend Covered
lololololololol
ROFL
Cheers Hic
@Bonn,…I’m gunna go and fetch some popcorn,…lol,.c’mon,.. A BIT HOLLY WOOD !,..don’t you think?
Dramatic music,..doomsday scenario,.. hahaha
Got any space in your cave in the Himalaya’s ,… ; )
Good Keiser … who is the fuckin head?
@ Stacy & Max
I suggest you guys also check out giza
http://www.gizamap.com/geomatrix/
LOLOL
ROFL
Hic
@flicks
Have you noticed that lady is an absolute shill.
@ Youri @ Youri
http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/giza_geomatrix/giza_geomatrix.html
http://gizamaps.com/
http://www.gizamap.com/geomatrix/
Following up Patrick G by Project Camelot
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Definately werth a look I Think I hit the Jackpot go to the Sites Gizamap First
Max don’t hold back, tell us what you really think!
@Patrick
Do you realize that the monopoly on violence is now in the hands of corporations and other businesses in the US? If someone else can use violence to improve their wealth and power, perhaps alongside but more likely completely detached from any contract of equal justice amongst the citizens, then why couldn’t you? The initiative to realign public interest and the role of justice can only come from the public, other parties are profiting from the current assymetry.
I talked to a student when I got stuck in the south of france because of a railway strike. He was complaining about it. I told him he should be happy someone was acting up, and that it was a small price to pay for the reassertion of real interdependencies within society. Strikes that ripple through the lives of others put it in their faces that they have a choice to show solidarity. If all rail strikes where banned (because of the economical impact), you would never know who was suffering or neglected.
Just like my project Self defence agains extinction, one could start a project called ‘Self defence about corporate occupation’, saying that this occupation is an ongoing threat to the lives of individuals, who having no other recourse could panic for their lives and strike against it. That is defendable. What do you do if you need medicine to keep yourself alive and you see corrupting corporate lobbyist threaten you only source of income?
to believe that the Middle class will be the vangaurd of a new uprising is absolutely FOLLY…the middle class does not have the temperment to rebel and is so easily bought off with just a couple more sheckles or one more serving of porriage
also Middle Class Revolts turn UGLY FAST!!!! just look towards Germany and Russia…to see what happens when the little teachers, military, police, small shop owners/merchants/industrilist have the srews put to them
Bolshavism and Nazis are not purdy…people have this idealized image of the middle class that is completely devoid of the historical reality…Also America’s revolt was in a sense a middle manager coup, but those Middle Managers were well established men of Property
Blood Tests Show Elevated Level of Toxic Hydrocarbons in Gulf Residents
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/09/blood-tests-show-elevated-level-of.html
Also Democracy Now …. Environmentalism increasingly being targeted as terrorism
lawful rebellion tpuc.org
Judge bows to sovereign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EzJsUExEDE
cool
I certainly agree that it will be the middle classes that are likely to be the spearhead of change.. But I’m unsure whether your guillotine comments were tongue in cheek or not.. But I really don’t see any valuable change to come out of the use of violence.. Take the French example which albeit saw some freedoms come about from the throwing out of aristocracy.. It has certainly developed into a state of mammoth proportions that far outweigh the aristocracy of its past.. The use of violence only changes the faces and cannot possibly change the outcome.. Violence and the use of it always produces a tyranny eventually.. I can only see voluntary actions producing better change.. A world in which people can choose to voluntarily interact with whomever and whatever they please.. Once people get that violence and the threat thereof is the rotting core to mans contemporary existence.. Then and only then will we see a revolution like no other.. However, this is not likely to happen in our life time, whilst people are fixated with force and violence as the answer.. peace
http://www.ecoshock.org/downloads/economy/ES_Stoneleigh.mp3
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11226888
Sorry Vince its game set and almost match to the devil
You got into bed with dogs and now the fleas have you
scratching your head at how they shut you up. Oh dear
You need to get out
grab some gold and silver
and fuck off.
“@flicks,….Are you trading intra day ?”
Hi Dedo – I’m mixing magnesium white to glaze part of my painting. I got me a pot of gold and silver and I’m long, been long for 5 years but ready to fuck off .
@Jahilea
To learn why the public isn’t mobilizing, you might watch the documentary Status Anxiety by Alain de Botton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CERfoDIU2Yw
The short answer is: Envy.
Most Americans are selfish sniveling uneducated people who will bicker over who gets which deck chair on the Titanic and ignore the coming iceberg. Even the educated ones are largely uneducated about subjects that matter.
@flicks,….Are you trading intra day ?
“For an experiment,..anyone fancy interpreting the underlying message in snoop diddys Google clip ?”
nuke google
everyone knows that its an opt out, not an opt in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPO-ng4RGBo
Not seeing significant pull backs on silver its holding at top $ 19 and pushing into $20 The lows are around mid $19 .
Interesting
For an experiment,..anyone fancy interpreting the underlying message in snoop diddys Google clip ?
From
http://www.spingola.com/before_rockefeller.htm
Included in the Rothschild 25-point plan to take over the world:
“13. Make the masses believe they had been the prey of criminals. Then restore order to appear as the saviors.”
Yea Max, nice job as always. What us middle class folks need to do is to join together to buy one of the 5 major media conglomerates so that we can present guys like Max or Paul Craig Roberts etc. to the world.
Max, you have the Wall St. background, how do we pull this off?
@snoop diddy,….Very good propaganda piece,….
The Onion skit on the Google Opt Out option:
Google Opt Out Feature Lets Users Protect Privacy By Moving To Remote Village
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMChO0qNbkY&feature=related
Is Peter Schiff and Ron Paul involved in the Tea party?
Could it be that Obama has been intentionally screwing up (e.g. oil spill) because his Bilderberg masters want to remove him in 2012 and put in another Neoconservative who will for instance attack Iran and start World War III?
@ Max
I just heard it again
Its actually a Damn Good Patriotic Speech
I dunno how you can be so consice & precise
Kudos to you
LOL
Cheers
Hic
Thank you Max for what you do you are a good man you deserve the best!
How bout that $20 Silver?
Oh yeah, its still worth the same in real terms.
Damn, I thought I was winning.
Careful Max, they might work out that youre a terrorist
did NOT!
Nice but Max did stick enough ‘fucks’ into them.
It won’t hold $20, it will slip down…your be poor POOR i tell you!
(Morning Gang)
Mike
@unaaitmesteeds
Heelmal kut!! Moet $50 dollar zijn
@troy ounce
Very catch tune. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vu5EsRLN2Y&feature=related
That’s pretty cool
yes… us$ 20 for silver…. Jawel, eindelijk!
If folk react to things that are happening at present,…
That is exactly what the PTB have forecast,…
Strategy: “Think” of a problem,. decide on the many responses/reactions that are possible. Create problem(on a small scale),… Watch/get feedback.
Fine tune,…. Go for the big roll out !,…. : )
Listen up Max. The American people are pretty much braindead now.
They still believe Fox Snooze. are too busy with football,, and keep abreast of what Tiger Woods and other celebrities are doing to care about REAL important things.
The circus will continue until one morning they will wake up to see the banks closed down.
Best 3 things you can do is buy a shovel, a few jars of Miracle Whip (eat the contents first) and convert paper currency to coins. Then find a spot in backyard behind some trees.
Beano for cows
@Troy ounce,…..Very funny !! LOL
LOL
On AJ
Paul Joseph Watson compares Al Gore / John P Holdren to Charlse Manson
LOLOLOLOL
Charles Manson & the Scientific Dictatorship
http://www.infowars.com/charles-manson-the-scientific-dictatorship/
Religion of Death
Lucy Komisar takes on The Noble Group :-
http://thekomisarscoop.com/2010/01/how-multinational-aided-by-ernst-young-tried-to-launder-profits-cheat-on-taxes-through-offshore-bermuda-shell-5/
And has a result : -
http://thekomisarscoop.com/2010/09/scoop-article-prompts-swiss-investigation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheKomisarScoop+%28The+Komisar+Scoop%29
@Bonn,..Leadership is a very clever (insidious) animal,.. and most follow whom ever dares to tread the path less traveled.
BTW: Most folk are very afraid !,… go figure : )
Tell us how you really feel, Max !!
Max Keiser for President !!! or the Leader of ”Storm the Bastardille” in DC.
Troy Ounce – I was just about to get serious and start painting, now I
cant stop laughing and have yet another excuse as well as UK PMQ’s to put off painting.
@ Dedo
concept devised to stop grass roots organizations starting up
thats what the Britishers were doing to us during British Empirialism
One dude sat one day and thought How the F@#K do I Screw this British Empire hmmmm errrrrr Eureka Non-Compliance & burn all Foreign Goods and buy home made Goods – Gandhi
Man burn sh!t tats already broke and Chinese made or sometin
get it on MSM
I dont see any other route out
Hic
I know that alley!
The Dutch interviewer should go to a language school to get rid of his thick accent:
Video (NSFW): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vu5EsRLN2Y&feature=related
I’ll let you all in a little secret about “terrorism”
It’s a concept devised to stop grass roots organizations starting up ! Dedo
Yep, it’s all about protecting the status quo.
I’ll let you all in a little secret about “terrorism”
It’s a concept devised to stop grass roots organizations starting up !
(It’s a step by step process)
This whole charade is a stage show,..and folk really don’t see the BIG picture,…: )
Also, I am tempted to put Rogain on my forearms and the backs of my hands.
@Stacy,
Where do you buy Max’s shirts at?
US peeps should learn to STRIKE !!!!
Non Compliance & Strike and buy only US made Goods made by US citizens in the US Screw ariated Drinks as well have only Juices
Screw Coke and Pepsi tey remind me of Republicans & Democrats
the False left right Paradigme (how do u spell tat )
lololololol
ROFL
Hic
i believe some see what is happening..but i think they are bought out or compramised..some really believe he is the “one”…they could impeach him, and get him out of office, but that will never happen…pg
@put it this way,..if a grass roots movement were to start up, it definitely wouldn’t be advertised on the world wide web !
Still growing respect mate
@Bonn,..No money left ! hahaha
Money is a control mechanism Bonn,… and the system is being altered as we speak,..slowly slowly catchy monkey,…
@ pg
No what I am asking is there a legal structure where Congress sees what obama has done till now @ the half way mark ??? before allowing him to continue his presidency
@Bonn,..put it this way,..if a grass roots movement were to start up, it definitely wouldn’t be advertised on the world wide web ! LOL,…Hahahahaha,.. just choked on my coffee,..
@ Dedo
They dont realize there is no more money to Steal peeps are unhealthy wit GMO food
Its time peeps to say HALT ! “Re investigate 9/11 attacks & B!tches NO freakin distractions like ANTHRAX LETTERS B!tch”
re investigate 9/11 re investigate 9/11 re investigate 9/11
Hic
confidence in obama? no, he is a loser……..pg
Mr Stiglitz said historical evidence showed that increased state spending helped economies emerge from recession. He added that the example of Ireland showed that austerity leads to declining output, rising unemployment and high bond spreads, instead of renewed investment. from Austerity cutbacks are an economic ‘disaster’, Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz warns
@ Dedo
I would take the Job And $$$$ and Screw up there plans big time
LOL
ROFL
Hic
http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/15/1576/QQMDD00Z/charles-schulz-peanuts-think-big.jpg
@ any American Citizen
Just curious Is there such thing as Vote of Confidence for Obama this November 2010 ???
Anybody ???
What you’ve got to ask yourself is,…
If you reached a position, where you could influence many folk(which is usually the stage you’re approached), and were offered the best life possible for you and your progeny, to steer your followers in a certain direction,…what would YOU do ?
The establishment are far more powerful than many might comprehend (they have no need for money) think about it,……
As Ralph Nader was dicussed at length in the last Truth About Markets I thought this piece should be revisited (from last month). Remember when
we were wondering Cuomo was gonna “do a Guiliani” and try and make a name for himself when Goldman was caught for fraud….well I doubt it somehow after reading Nader’s article. And the Tobin/Sales Tax that many have been calling for on Wall St? – well it exists already, but isn’t inforced!
What most New Yorkers do not know is that for about a century there has been a state stock transfer tax on purchases of securities. This year, this tax, similar to ones imposed in 30 other countries, will amount to about $16 billion. Amazingly, since 1979, this tax has been instantly rebated by New York State back to the brokers or clearinghouses who paid it. A 100% rebate every year for the bailed out industry that caused the recession and its immense human damage………….“Why is Mr. Cuomo, the anointed front runner, hiding the Stock Transfer Tax from the public when it is an obvious way to bridge the state budget deficit? Why does he rule out higher taxes on the rich when they have more money than ever, why won’t he make them pay their fair share, when they’ll still be rich after paying their fair share?”
http://www.counterpunch.org/nader08062010.html
Max should do a German tour IMO … and NOT ware a suit.
All the big cities … Frankfurt, Duesseldorf, Munich and Hamburg would be my recommendation.
He’s sure to get TV coverage in Germany IMO.
There are now quite a few MK Clones in Germany talking up the same themes … to rich investors and us common folk.
( some take entrance fees as well IIRC )
In fact, I would guess that they have probably shown a few MK, AJ, William Black YT videos as well.
@Jahilea,.. you’re naive to think the masses have ever, or will ever “rise up”,..they never have, and never will!
Organization is the key, and that’s usually a top down thang,….
Wakey, wakey !!
sorry could not resist middle class:
http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2010/ezcurra020510.html
Max comes across as charismatic on that
Well done Mother Earth if that was you
Now Thats RAW Max Keiser LOLOLOLLOLO
WTG Max
@ Stacy/Max who was this dude who did this small piece on Max
Looked like he caught Max while gettin into the Car or somethin
ROFL
Hic
Max calling for violence? That will get you censored.
Max, do an episode with someone who is an expert on why the torch and pitchfork crowds haven’t been mobilized. Its clear that you are frustrated with American citizens apathy. Why aren’t the citizens rising up, seriously? An episode with a sociologist might be worth considering. Don’t dismiss it as sheeple being sheeple out of hand, there has to be a good story behind it all.
BTW: @Mother,….What you doing takin’ mAx in the back alley !!
naughty, naughty,..(hope Stacy wasn’t watching),….: )
@Mother,…You managed to hunt him out then ? : )