Makes one glad to witness the purity of the Left. People like George Sorors, Peter Lewis, and other Gulfstream V liberals would never fund front groups such as MoveOn.Com.
Max, why don’t you go after the fake left, please don’t alienate your audience, most of us who supported the ORIGINAL tea party have to deal with the cards we are dealt, What we should be doing is trying to get these people on the right page and out of the corporate pocket. Thats what the Ron Paul supporters try to do and Rand Paul has to get elected so he can stop playing nice with the Neo-Cons..one thing you don’t seem to understand.
Now on top of this, I am afraid YOU’RE thoughts are being manipulated is with the Global Warming Cult. I know you are smarter than that and I know you KNOW is BS. I heard you on Alex Jones, you are going along with is because you hate Oil Companies..that is not an excuse to fill peoples heads with Garbage.
Okay, unlike Max and Stacy, I still live in the US, and they are being too hard on Americans with this. There IS genuine grass roots discontent with both parties here but it is being hijacked by the corporations to make it ineffective.
Ideological subversion tactics in the US work to make disruptive social movements “uncool” to nullify their appeal; so intellectuals introduced to the dorky corporate version (tea party inc. in this case) can rip on it and call it “generic, corporatized, stupid, etc.”
Max and Stacy are not living in the US, and seem to only be exposed to corporate mockeries of protest. They look through a purple trans-Atlantic lense and call everything purple. I feel it’s a shame that I’ve been a loyal patron of Max and Stacy, yet I can’t ever go out and protest without them thinking I’m a corn-fed Fox news, Palin or McCain moron. It just isn’t so.
Maybe all on the same day they found out Punk Rock existed, and was generic and a fake corporate product, was because their first exposure was Green Day on MTV. But they weren’t at the Dead Kennedy’s show during the WTO protests, protesting “New Feudalism” 10 years ago, when half the crowd there had been tear gassed that day. People here know what’s up. Real protest in the US is met with an iron fist so it’s hard to measure. Don’t let Max and Stacy speak for all Americans.
I learned that Code Pink is astroturf when I discovered who it was that signed off on literally censoring Project Censored’s yearly reports. It was a Washington DC thinktank called IPS that had taken over the publishing of the reports, and guess who’s on the board? The head of Code Pink in LA Jodie Evans. And what did they want to censor out of the Project Censored reports? Anything and everything pertaining to 9/11 being an inside job.
“. But they weren’t at the Dead Kennedy’s show during the WTO protests, protesting “New Feudalism” 10 years ago, when half the crowd there had been tear gassed that day. People here know what’s up. Real protest in the US is met with an iron fist so it’s hard to measure. ”
Yes Zach you just proved Max and Stacy’s point real grass roots are met with an Iron fist.
The tea party get kid gloves and corporate sponsorship
Old stuff. How about this ? You see. Thes corporate from United Satan of America did it even in Russia and Germany. Anthony Sutton. Read this guy. It really opened my eyes about the British and the Americans these bastards. Yes UK and USA are satanic bastards.
Unless you show both sides of the coin then YOU are NOT telling the TRUTH, you are spreading disinformation.
Both sides of the story would be them talking about George Soros, Democracy Now, Code Pink, the FAKE anti-war left, and poor Cindy Sheehan!
By the way, who does Cindy align herself with these days? Alex Jones, We Are Change, Ron Paul, etc. If that doesn’t speak volumes, I don’t know what does!!!
Lastly, is Obama Care anti-Corporatism? I think NOT! Who wrote that damn bill?!?!?!?!
Corporat America financed national socialism. Corporate America financed communism. You see the same pattern here. One movement pseudo-leftist financed by Soros ass lickers. And another movement financed by Koch suckers. Look at who plays with the puppets and who pull the strings. ON BOTH SIDES !
I can’t believe people still belive that the Tea Party is astroturf. I thought that was revealed to be bullshit.
Listen to Ron Paul, the Tea Party godfather, on Alex Jones today talking about ending the Federal Reserve and the banking cartel shadow government. You call that shit astroturf??
What, do the Koch brothers want to start their own central bank? Ron Paul hasn’t been hijacked. His track record proves that he has the most independent, largest balls of anyone, so shut the fuck up. Rand Paul sprung from those balls, and he’s get his own balls, too!
@Davey Jones
No, The Koch Brothers are the worm in the apple. I don’t think that monopolists have something to do here. These bastards are certainly not against the FED. Same thing with Soros on the left. Davey you are either naive or stupid. Cui bono. Who profits. Ron Paul was ousted by cocksucking monopolists. I think you are quite naive. Seing Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck says it all.
The more I read and I know about the USA, the more I hate this country. The same is true for UK. If foreign assholes, which are total ignorant assholes, only knew what USA is, they would indeed unite just to get rid of USA as a world power. Hope the place goes up in smoke.
Enough of my pioneer ancestors from faggy Europe took arrows in the back from Indians, literally, for me to say, Fuck off, Faggy queers. I’m just joking with you.
“I find myself … hoping a total end of all the unhappy divisions of mankind by party-spirit, which at best is but the madness of many for the gain of a few.”
Alexander Pope
People who resist the corporatist state(cf. Seattle and Toronto) are met with jackboots, rubber bullets and gas.
Kudos to Gordo recognizing Obama has a “partner in his labors” with the Tea Party. And, yes, the Healthcare “Reform” is a Corporatist bill co-written by a former Well Point V.P…..All she had to do was add some details to the old Dole plan of 1994 which turned into the Romney Plan.
@Davey
I don’t think you don’t get it. It’s not even that. If it wasn’t for your faggy France and faggy England USA would still be a dump. Hope the place goes up in smoke. It’s already the case. Fuckin bordeline banana republic. Boss Hogg Obanana is doing one fine job. Don’t forget to drink your Corexit. Hey you have to admier Ron Paul. But he will finish with a bullett in the head like Kennedy. No illusion about this fuckin banana republic.
@Zach O’Brien – “Real protest in the US is met with an iron fist so it’s hard to measure.” Exactly. So how do you explain the Red Carpet on Fox for the Tea Party, the drawing in millions of ‘anonymous’ donations to nominate candidates and the GOP kowtowing to their demands? I believe the explanation is the movement is just a repackaged Christian Right, but one more dangerous now that they have the massive financial backing of the secretive Koch brothers and the media backing of arch Leo Straussian, neoconservative, Rupert Murdoch.
The Tea Party, in general, are also Red Team partisans. And Ron Paul, by the way, has distanced himself from the Tea Party and told them to beware of the warmongering likes of Beck and Palin. The Christian Right, however, demands war as they always have and so more war we will have; and the several wars the US has going on at the same time comes down to their vocal and enthusiastic support for the Bush administration’s murderous rampage (which has now become the Obama admin’s).
By the way, here are some recent stats on who the ‘grassroots’ movement is:
Re: punk, I’ve never listened to Green Day. I did attend gigs by the Ramones, Circle Jerks and Husker Du back in the early eighties; no big deal and MTV was already making everything corporate by then anyway
And, I have just been to the states. And it’s even worse than what I thought.
@BlackSwan – Soros openly gives his money; he has not donated secretively and I haven’t ever seen MoveOn.org try to pretend to be an unprofessional, adhoc collection of placard bearing angry citizens wanting to ‘take back our country’ (not from the banksters and other political criminals mind you) but from the unreligious, the secular and the liberal
@chundernuts – ha ha, ‘arse roots movement’
@Davey Jones – Ron Paul has little to do with the Tea Party groups; he incurred their wrath by pointing out, as we have, that the Koch brothers and other monopolists are using them to further the aims of the warfare state party; many of the Tea Partiers are all for war as part of the crusades, but Ron Paul rightfully points out that war is THE essence of big government and historically THE major reason behind currency collapse
@Marc Authier – yes, the fact that not a single Tea Partier seems to have any concern whatsoever about Koch’s agenda tells me all I need to know about the principles of the movement
I wonder just how the collaspe will happen…………will it be over 5-10 years like Marc Farber sez or quicker………..how many wars….how many dead?
mike
They are just so damn tricksy these corporate fellows.
This is elites vs elites using the people as pawns. I think later it will be more overt then covert, unlike now…
Makes one glad to witness the purity of the Left. People like George Sorors, Peter Lewis, and other Gulfstream V liberals would never fund front groups such as MoveOn.Com.
Max, why don’t you go after the fake left, please don’t alienate your audience, most of us who supported the ORIGINAL tea party have to deal with the cards we are dealt, What we should be doing is trying to get these people on the right page and out of the corporate pocket. Thats what the Ron Paul supporters try to do and Rand Paul has to get elected so he can stop playing nice with the Neo-Cons..one thing you don’t seem to understand.
Now on top of this, I am afraid YOU’RE thoughts are being manipulated is with the Global Warming Cult. I know you are smarter than that and I know you KNOW is BS. I heard you on Alex Jones, you are going along with is because you hate Oil Companies..that is not an excuse to fill peoples heads with Garbage.
Okay, unlike Max and Stacy, I still live in the US, and they are being too hard on Americans with this. There IS genuine grass roots discontent with both parties here but it is being hijacked by the corporations to make it ineffective.
Ideological subversion tactics in the US work to make disruptive social movements “uncool” to nullify their appeal; so intellectuals introduced to the dorky corporate version (tea party inc. in this case) can rip on it and call it “generic, corporatized, stupid, etc.”
Max and Stacy are not living in the US, and seem to only be exposed to corporate mockeries of protest. They look through a purple trans-Atlantic lense and call everything purple. I feel it’s a shame that I’ve been a loyal patron of Max and Stacy, yet I can’t ever go out and protest without them thinking I’m a corn-fed Fox news, Palin or McCain moron. It just isn’t so.
Maybe all on the same day they found out Punk Rock existed, and was generic and a fake corporate product, was because their first exposure was Green Day on MTV. But they weren’t at the Dead Kennedy’s show during the WTO protests, protesting “New Feudalism” 10 years ago, when half the crowd there had been tear gassed that day. People here know what’s up. Real protest in the US is met with an iron fist so it’s hard to measure. Don’t let Max and Stacy speak for all Americans.
I learned that Code Pink is astroturf when I discovered who it was that signed off on literally censoring Project Censored’s yearly reports. It was a Washington DC thinktank called IPS that had taken over the publishing of the reports, and guess who’s on the board? The head of Code Pink in LA Jodie Evans. And what did they want to censor out of the Project Censored reports? Anything and everything pertaining to 9/11 being an inside job.
Code Pink = astroturf.
Zach
“. But they weren’t at the Dead Kennedy’s show during the WTO protests, protesting “New Feudalism” 10 years ago, when half the crowd there had been tear gassed that day. People here know what’s up. Real protest in the US is met with an iron fist so it’s hard to measure. ”
Yes Zach you just proved Max and Stacy’s point real grass roots are met with an Iron fist.
The tea party get kid gloves and corporate sponsorship
NObody in Seattle got corporate sponsorship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GhPsJCXPqY&feature=related
Old stuff. How about this ? You see. Thes corporate from United Satan of America did it even in Russia and Germany. Anthony Sutton. Read this guy. It really opened my eyes about the British and the Americans these bastards. Yes UK and USA are satanic bastards.
@Marc Authier
The biggest grass root movement in history financed by Wall Street.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GhPsJCXPqY&feature=related
Worthless piece of crap!
This film is biased propaganda disinfo!!!
Unless you show both sides of the coin then YOU are NOT telling the TRUTH, you are spreading disinformation.
Both sides of the story would be them talking about George Soros, Democracy Now, Code Pink, the FAKE anti-war left, and poor Cindy Sheehan!
By the way, who does Cindy align herself with these days? Alex Jones, We Are Change, Ron Paul, etc. If that doesn’t speak volumes, I don’t know what does!!!
Lastly, is Obama Care anti-Corporatism? I think NOT! Who wrote that damn bill?!?!?!?!
Pathetic losers….
@david
“Lastly, is Obama Care anti-Corporatism? I think NOT! Who wrote that damn bill?!?!?!?!”
You are finally starting to get it, congratulations.
You also just proved Max and Stacy’s point.
Thanks Maybe in 5 years you get the whole picture? No?
CONCLUSION. Most ‘grass’ root movement communism and nazism are for suckers. Pseudo-left and pseudo-right.
Always ask the question ‘Cui bono ?’
It’s limpid that ‘grass movements’ are inexistant in USA.
Corporat America financed national socialism. Corporate America financed communism. You see the same pattern here. One movement pseudo-leftist financed by Soros ass lickers. And another movement financed by Koch suckers. Look at who plays with the puppets and who pull the strings. ON BOTH SIDES !
Worldwide Astro Turff Stacy and Max.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XxgcORB4cA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYm5q9vwfRs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-nbnRKDiDI&NR=1
Hey ? ! How’s that for Worldwide Astro Turf ?
I can’t believe people still belive that the Tea Party is astroturf. I thought that was revealed to be bullshit.
Listen to Ron Paul, the Tea Party godfather, on Alex Jones today talking about ending the Federal Reserve and the banking cartel shadow government. You call that shit astroturf??
@Davey Jones
The problem is that Ron Paul has been high jacked by the Koch suckers.
What, do the Koch brothers want to start their own central bank? Ron Paul hasn’t been hijacked. His track record proves that he has the most independent, largest balls of anyone, so shut the fuck up. Rand Paul sprung from those balls, and he’s get his own balls, too!
@Davey Jones
No, The Koch Brothers are the worm in the apple. I don’t think that monopolists have something to do here. These bastards are certainly not against the FED. Same thing with Soros on the left. Davey you are either naive or stupid. Cui bono. Who profits. Ron Paul was ousted by cocksucking monopolists. I think you are quite naive. Seing Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck says it all.
The more I read and I know about the USA, the more I hate this country. The same is true for UK. If foreign assholes, which are total ignorant assholes, only knew what USA is, they would indeed unite just to get rid of USA as a world power. Hope the place goes up in smoke.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/10/fantastic-news-nonfarm-payrolls-decline.html
Good, we’re coming to steal your women and your silver and gold. USA USA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M11SvDtPBhA
Enough of my pioneer ancestors from faggy Europe took arrows in the back from Indians, literally, for me to say, Fuck off, Faggy queers. I’m just joking with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRX4mlFi06A
“I find myself … hoping a total end of all the unhappy divisions of mankind by party-spirit, which at best is but the madness of many for the gain of a few.”
Alexander Pope
People who resist the corporatist state(cf. Seattle and Toronto) are met with jackboots, rubber bullets and gas.
Kudos to Gordo recognizing Obama has a “partner in his labors” with the Tea Party. And, yes, the Healthcare “Reform” is a Corporatist bill co-written by a former Well Point V.P…..All she had to do was add some details to the old Dole plan of 1994 which turned into the Romney Plan.
There is not left in America.
There is NO left in America. oopikins.
something of my teenage years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylc-jhqXtJ0
@Davey
I don’t think you don’t get it. It’s not even that. If it wasn’t for your faggy France and faggy England USA would still be a dump. Hope the place goes up in smoke. It’s already the case. Fuckin bordeline banana republic. Boss Hogg Obanana is doing one fine job. Don’t forget to drink your Corexit. Hey you have to admier Ron Paul. But he will finish with a bullett in the head like Kennedy. No illusion about this fuckin banana republic.
Thre real level of unemployment in paradise USA.
http://www.financialarmageddon.com/
90% of USA black children NOW on food stamps.
http://uspoverty.change.org/blog/view/90_of_black_children_on_food_stamps
Good film about propaganda in the USA – Psywar
http://www.openfilm.com/videos/psywar
And which corporations are behind this documentary?
Heres a documentary
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5576670191369613647&hl=en#
That the progressives will out of hand reject
Arse Roots movement for sure
@Zach O’Brien – “Real protest in the US is met with an iron fist so it’s hard to measure.” Exactly. So how do you explain the Red Carpet on Fox for the Tea Party, the drawing in millions of ‘anonymous’ donations to nominate candidates and the GOP kowtowing to their demands? I believe the explanation is the movement is just a repackaged Christian Right, but one more dangerous now that they have the massive financial backing of the secretive Koch brothers and the media backing of arch Leo Straussian, neoconservative, Rupert Murdoch.
The Tea Party, in general, are also Red Team partisans. And Ron Paul, by the way, has distanced himself from the Tea Party and told them to beware of the warmongering likes of Beck and Palin. The Christian Right, however, demands war as they always have and so more war we will have; and the several wars the US has going on at the same time comes down to their vocal and enthusiastic support for the Bush administration’s murderous rampage (which has now become the Obama admin’s).
By the way, here are some recent stats on who the ‘grassroots’ movement is:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/10/a-libertarian-face-a-social-conservative-heart-.html
Re: punk, I’ve never listened to Green Day. I did attend gigs by the Ramones, Circle Jerks and Husker Du back in the early eighties; no big deal and MTV was already making everything corporate by then anyway
And, I have just been to the states. And it’s even worse than what I thought.
@BlackSwan – Soros openly gives his money; he has not donated secretively and I haven’t ever seen MoveOn.org try to pretend to be an unprofessional, adhoc collection of placard bearing angry citizens wanting to ‘take back our country’ (not from the banksters and other political criminals mind you) but from the unreligious, the secular and the liberal
@chundernuts – ha ha, ‘arse roots movement’
@Davey Jones – Ron Paul has little to do with the Tea Party groups; he incurred their wrath by pointing out, as we have, that the Koch brothers and other monopolists are using them to further the aims of the warfare state party; many of the Tea Partiers are all for war as part of the crusades, but Ron Paul rightfully points out that war is THE essence of big government and historically THE major reason behind currency collapse
@Marc Authier – yes, the fact that not a single Tea Partier seems to have any concern whatsoever about Koch’s agenda tells me all I need to know about the principles of the movement
industrialized informationterror hits home soon.
Too late to jail the state or abolish corporate personhood.
CO2 Gas Rootcause of global distortion:
http://gasroot.com
1963:Consolidated Seizure of the White House by Esso’s military-industrial complex capturing the globalization trend and finishing civilization.
The Sovereign Role of Law is non-existent.
The Pullution War is won by China.
The Currrency Wars are finishing civilization off.
http://worltd.com
Marc Authier,
How long did you stay in The US?
I like your style!
@Stephan Tychon
Klootzak, (asshole). nutsack.
BTW, what is my last name? LOL
there is more than one of me here., I keep getting their mail.
I agree with Marc Authier. fuck the USA., Ilived there 30 years and put my life on the line in Vietnam,
They can rot in hell, its all a big fucking SCAM