just max’s part from zmf – blasts Goldman Sachs AGAIN!!!!

Posted on January 25, 2011 by maxkeiser| 26 Comments

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26 Responses to just max’s part from zmf – blasts Goldman Sachs AGAIN!!!!

Bruce | January 25, 2011 at 2:33 pm |

Now we’re talkin’

Saves me from splicing it myself, though I think I’ll still slice annoying voice-over guy and just get 100% Max.

Unofficial Max Fanclub Downunder.
Chervonets | January 25, 2011 at 2:36 pm |

There is a celebration on “avenue John F.Kennedy” in Brussels as Eurobonds take off successfully. How long until all member states go to the EFSF for their bonds and then how long before all Europeans start paying tax to the EFSF.

http://www.efsf.europa.eu/about/index.htm

http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2011-01-25/blow-out-efsf?mod=sectionheadlines-home-IB

Political integration of Europe is going fast, nobody if voting for it, but they are doing it anyway for the good of the people. Never waste a good crisis to grap some more power from the people.
Chervonets | January 25, 2011 at 2:37 pm |

sorry Luxembourg that is not Brussels
MirrorMirror | January 25, 2011 at 2:41 pm |

WW Debt : Elaborate Fiction

Nice … I would have used the words VIRTUAL DEBT.
Of course , there is no virtue in it as such … but still !
Jason | January 25, 2011 at 3:13 pm |

I watched the whole movie. They do a great job of defining how the real world works then they propose solutions that entrench the utopian delusions of the elite central planners who have created the problems. They present the evidence for the bankruptcy of the system then every solution these morons come up with is to enslave the world under the thumbs of a bunch of intellectually, morally and ethically bankrupt elitists. The proposed solutions are what I call criminally stupid especially after first presenting all of the scientific evidence that it cannot possibly work.
Blake | January 25, 2011 at 3:27 pm |

@jason

false economy = fraud, hoarding, etc
true economy = physical refferent, scientific

so many clowns overreacting around the world.
Its a proposal.
If you said to your family, lets go to the pub, and they spun round and went
“who do you think you are you utopianist moron, its unfeasible, its ridiculous, preposterous, poppycock”
youd be like “chill, its just a suggestion. how will we know its possible until we give it a try”
you sir are a pair of shiny clown shoes
Tao Jonesing | January 25, 2011 at 3:36 pm |

“. . . all because of this elaborate fiction.”

Yep.
hugo fernandes | January 25, 2011 at 3:48 pm |

tks Max keizer for supporting the Earth …
tks Peter joseph for this great documentary…

we need to change to a silver gold based economy, and then with real money buy howr tickets to the venus project like socety..
DBN | January 25, 2011 at 3:59 pm |

I just hope Max returns the favour and asks for Peter Joseph to come onto the Keiser Report
Ryan | January 25, 2011 at 4:20 pm |

What happened to the video on this website? IPhones don’t seem to play anymore.
Omega Pointing | January 25, 2011 at 4:53 pm |

A round of applause goes to Max. Can anyone tell me whether this is the only place Max turns up in the entire film? If so, this must be a terrible film…
Titus | January 25, 2011 at 5:01 pm |

Its not ‘brain damage’ its ‘Psychotic’, thats the word.
Jason | January 25, 2011 at 5:31 pm |

@Blake But it has been tried again and again. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Jason | January 25, 2011 at 5:36 pm |

@Blake
One more thing, if you take the film as a whole, they provide scientific evidence of their view of how the world works and why it is so messed up then they propose solutions that duplicate all of the problems that they claim cause the world to be messed up. The message in their film is not even internally consistent.
Marc Authier | January 25, 2011 at 5:37 pm |

@Titus
Most psychotics have also a damaged brain. They are excellent for politics, the CIA and the Pentagone and drug trafficking and killing people. I am sure that a brain scan of Obama would reveal a 100% psychotic brain. Don’t forget the politicians and my preferred scum the militaries are also quite strongly psychotic.The higher up the more brain damaged.
trippin | January 25, 2011 at 5:59 pm |

@Blake WORD!

most people, even after they wake up to fact they are enslaved would rather just keep towin the line. cause they are afraid of change.

when someone comes up with an interesting idea they spend all their energy trying to shoot it down in favor of the status quo.
Jason | January 25, 2011 at 6:05 pm |

@trippin
I am not for the status quo! The film makers are. They tell us how the world works then they propose doing the same things that they claim caused the problem. they present the scientific evidence for their case then they throw all of that out the window and propose more central planning.
Keehotee | January 25, 2011 at 6:23 pm |

Don’t rely on “science” or scientists for anything @Blake

Einstein spent much of his later life searching for a way to reconcile gravity and electromagnetism – without success. That is not surprising. As a theoretical mathematician he had no knowledge of the plasma universe and took no account of the electrical nature of matter. So, despite his apparently prodigious accomplishments, his work helped to inspire an unhealthy trend in physics, wherein a mathematical skeleton is dressed with whatever flesh the mind can imagine. In the extreme, this tendency promotes highly selective perception, as new observations are forced to fit theoretical expectations, giving rise to imaginary black holes, dark matter, dark energy, and other uniquely modern fictions.
trippin | January 25, 2011 at 6:46 pm |

but we don’t have central planning now.

we have a tiny group of people outside the system sucking the wealth out of it and bending or breaking the rules as they see fit.

they create a control system for the rest of us while they get the rewards.

we don’t have a say now, under a system like zmf there is a better chance of equality.
Blake | January 25, 2011 at 6:52 pm |

a global REsource management system has never been attempted.

Science is the most usefull metaphysical tool we have as a species, because it is most in line with the emergent physical refferent. That is to say it does not seek to establish itself, and recognises that it is only a matter of time until understandings are updated or transcended. There are no absolutes except that im super bad ass and double mega badass
eliot | January 25, 2011 at 7:18 pm |

yay !!!!
Gerrit Govaerts | January 25, 2011 at 8:03 pm |

@Marc Authier :
During my professional career at big american multinational , I encountered some middle to high level managers who were definitely psychotic . At one point I started realizing that this was exactly what gave these people an edge on the career ladder . Completely in line with Max’s theory on the brain damaged investor . Back then I thought it was a good thing for society that these guys had such jobs , because I theorized that if they would not have gotten into these positions , they could have also turned into serial killers . Nowadays , I think it would have been better to let them be serial killers . As loners they can kill max say 100 people , as CEO’s they can leverage killing to millions of people . Boy , was I stupid
Bruce | January 26, 2011 at 2:22 am |

Ryan says:
What happened to the video on this website? IPhones don’t seem to play anymore.
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As far as I’m aware Apple hasn’t licensed Adobe Flash. I don’t own an iPhone though, so perhaps someone else can chime in.

I know there’s a YouTube app for things, but no Adobe Flash support in Safari.

Phones running on Google’s Android operating system for phones (available under many different brands) has Adobe Flash support.

But again I don’t own one.
Jayme | January 26, 2011 at 8:59 am |

I’ve watched most of the full video. I really like all the interviews. Some very smart men. Max’s was great too but he was left alone and where are the brilliant women. I know there are some out there. I’d like to have heard inputs from other financial analysts too and feel like Max was used as a page break in the arguement for a scientific utopian dream.

There is something seriously organic missing from this video (I’m into the systems theory section).

I agree with this statement by Jason

They do a great job of defining how the real world works then they propose solutions that entrench the utopian delusions of the elite central planners who have created the problems. – Jason

I think Peter Joseph is very astute at picking up the logical side of thinking but a deeply fundamental aspect of the human life and living systems (which are not theories) is missing. Peter appears to be attempting to erect a new mythology of science. This makes me queazy to think on.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the interviews of these professional men in ZMF. I’d like to see more women and more deep thinking financial analysts (David Malone is excellent), philosopher/economists like Manfred Max-Neef,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h01Ggc04mxM

, and even politicians like Ron Paul and Ralph Nader, or take your pick of great thinkers.

Peter Joseph’s approach can be broadened to encompass the range of beautiful, clear thinking taking place around the planet rather than use this thinking to assert his own belief. I find ZMF and his previous movies entertaining and a great deal of the analyses supported but feel like I’ve been bamboozled into thinking someone else’s belief system toward the end which makes me feel uneasy (queazy). Jaques Fresques stories are wonderful and he is a great futurist visionary but his work isn’t the end all be all. And like all good thinkers, he admits this himself. His vision is just one of many great ideas from many great minds.

The cartoons were an interesting experiment but the saturn and mars bits didn’t make much sense except being silly.

I’ll leave it at that…

Great interview Max.
Bruce | January 26, 2011 at 9:30 am |

Jason and Jayme:
brilliant analysis.

I feel much the same.
Like I have mentioned before here, I watched the first Zeitgeist movie and deleted it soon after. Starts off fine then the second part totally rubbed me the wrong way. I guess it’s the same here (I don’t feel like watching it personally).

Thanks for articulating your thoughts guys.
Jayme | January 26, 2011 at 5:24 pm |

Peter’s “Global Resource Management System” leaves out the idea that our brains don’t control the formation and resource of our body. How is it that some small meritocratic elitist think tank should define such a collective systems body for everyone. “Either you are with the system or you are against the system” to paraphrase Bush. Life is considered a resource to be exploited under this model, controlled, dominated, subjugated, rather than revered, respected, accepted, allowed, tolerated. This is a Kurzweilian technocaliptic technohuman post-orwellian nightmare.

Anyway, at about 1:35:00 Peter Joseph says “there is simply no logical alternative if our goal as a species is survival in the long run.” He talks of relevant resources and says we “have to keep track of every relevant resource.” This type of thinking says “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” There are some deep flaws in thinking and believing we control nature or should control nature. Not that we shouldn’t take measures but these are not the teleological terminus of being.

This is why I prefer what Max says. It is action that can be taken now. He isn’t offering some utopian dream. Reality is as reality does. Fixing the financial system (even Peter Joseph agrees with this) is a critical step toward reformation and perhaps blossoming into a renaissance that is life supporting biocentric economy not money supporting kleptocratic larceny.