We talk about George Osborne’s admission that he has no power over bankers and that the population will always have to pay for their crimes. We also discuss the ‘slow motion train robbery’ of low interest rates and the use of trending topics on Twitter as price propaganda. In the second half of the show, Max Keiser interviews Senator Mike Gravel about his direct democracy initiative and how it could empower the Occupy Wall Street movement.
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Regime change in Italy.
http://video.repubblica.it/dossier/berlusconi-dimissioni-governo-2011/buffone-buffone-l-arrivo-di-berlusconi-al-quirinale/80607?video=&ref=HREA-1
half way through, excellent first half! Cameron and Osborne, what bastards! Are they aware? Irrelevant! Clepto-Cacks!
2 guests in a row i don,t trust.
Berlusconi did resign.
http://www.repubblica.it/politica/2011/11/12/dirette/crisi_12_novembre-24884019/?ref=HREA-1
next thing ya know, Jack Van Impe will be a regular guest.
Just sickening if true :
Mass graves of Mohawk children uncovered at Mohawk Institute, a school operated by Church of England & the Vatican
http://www.newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/8862/Mass-graves-of-Mohawk-children-uncovered-at-Mohawk-Institute-a-school-operated-by-Church-of-England-the-Vatican.aspx
@MM. i live 70 miles from there. buy all my smokes and beer there. i work with 3 Guys right now that live there. mohawks are the best steel erectors in the world. i will pass this on to them. thanks
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@Senator Mike Gravel and his direct democracy initiative and how it could empower the Occupy Wall Street movement.
http://www.mikegravel.us/
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Gravel
Sounds almost too good to be true … hope he’s legit , and if so , Great guest !
Watch : The 2008 Declaration of Independence
http://www.mikegravel.us/
I have blogged this as a historic must see! Senator Mike Gravel another fine mind. Thanks Max and Stacy
@ronron .. Thx .. & good luck.
PS@The 2008 Declaration of Independence
by Mike Gravel (U.S. Senate, 1969-81)
“Secrecy is the foremost destructive force in a democracy”
Wow .. my Motto since years … I’m impressed !
A lynching is direct democracy, only one dissenting vote. The founding fathers recognized it for the horrible idea that it is.
Mike Gravel claims that for all of his (political) life he was/is for “Direct Democracy”. Really, this guy has been for years in Politics and I remember his weird campaing commercial where he just stand and said nothing. Remember that folks?
Anyway, Direct Democracy comes from Mr Gerald Celente. I’m sure Mr Gravel took that idea over.
@Nicholas, Mike Gravel is not from our neck of the woods…. could it be that he is not a very good politician, just a man with a good idea… like the difference between a scientist and a salesman?
@Angelo … ” could it be that he is not a very good politician”
Wouldn’t that make him a good choice then ?
weird. i thought direct democracy came from Greece. a long time ago. fuck. i have to start over again.
anyway, the word is Gravel owns a golf bag manufacturing company, and, is Rickards first cousin. watch yourself.
The MF Global Scandal just keeps getting better and better.
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2011/11/are-bofa-and-jp-morgan-major-impediment.html
plus it,s been pointed out to me that Stacy could not fit 300 pounds of coins in her hair. estimates are there are still 200 pounds in Connecticut. it,s still a little bit fuzzy.
Five Banks Account For 96% Of The $250 Trillion In Outstanding US Derivative Exposure; Is Morgan Stanley Sitting On An FX Derivative Time Bomb?
@Angelo … Direct Democracy
I posted here YEARS ago that one could use one’s bank account to “vote with 1$” for Direct Democracy Polls . I was pleased to see Gerald Celente take it up as well.
Each bank account gets designated a “secret & unique keyword” … i.e. one that only YOU know.
The 1$s “posted” for the votes on issues are pooled and made available for EVERYONE to see and inspect on the Internet.
In order for every citizen to be able to “check the identity” of each 1$ to avoid fraud, the TOTAL SUM of the money is detailed STATISTICALLY showing the TOTALS by Street, City, County.
It would therefore be possible see easily see if phoney IDs are being used, because of course, the CHECKSUM to be used would be the TOTAL NUMBER OF HOUSES IN EACH STREET !
i.e. a low level fraud check could be done by any citizen without giving away their real individual identity.
FWIW
How do we overthrow bankers hiding behind governments?
Chart Of The Day: The EFSF Is Already Trading As AA+, Or Why The French AAA Rating No Longer Matters
great show gravel was very interesting…cannot believe silver had a reportable impact on the deficit in the uk… i thought i was the only nutcase buying silver in the uk with 20% vat etc lol
ECB bond buys will go as far as needed: Kranjec
ahahaahahahaahah the market will surely call his bluff and one other slight problem: He’s not in charge the Gemans are!
He’s just a nobody with a big mouth.
@MirrorMirror, very interesting. for “TOTAL NUMBER OF HOUSES IN EACH STREET !” did you mean individuals?
I too have campaigned for “Open Democracy” which I see quite simply as complete government transparency. My blog was the first and so I guess by proxy is now the longest running political blog in Bristol City, UK. I have to say that I like the “idea” of direct government as an enhancement to the idea of Open Democracy. That is to say a pervasive transparency.
No … no … no … gravels’ on the road … as in “we are just gravel on the road” first cousin to Granite … big up north for curlers and rock stars; also lots of dumb ass people climb ‘em cause there, there, so there!
@ terryfkwit
Yep, don´t think it´s the SLA but the RAF, restocking the ammo they used in the Lybian campaign.
Open Direct Democracy.
@Angelo … Bristol ?
I used to live near Bath … beautiful area .. did a lot of horse riding FWIW.
… did you mean individuals?…
I oversimplified for brevity.
As I said :
# Each “Voter” would get a Secret-ID.
# There would be a “Tally” of how many voters live in one street.
If voters became suspicious when there were say 1000 votes for his street, the community could easily do a local audit from door to door.
If a discrepancy is identified, then the “vote list” would be audited by simply printing it out and allowing each person in the street to cross his ID off the list.
The ID’s remaining “not crossed off” are then the FRAUDULENT ones.
The Bank would then be served with a Court Order to publish the FRAUDULENT IDs “own bank account identity” .. which would then be published on the Internet.
Simple is always better …. and sucha simple system allows EVERYONE to be an AUDITOR of Government fraud !
FWIW
Correction @ If voters became suspicious when there were say 1000 votes for his street, the community could easily do a local audit from door to door.
If voters became suspicious when there were say 1000 votes for his street ( where there were only say a known 500 voters/houses ), the community could easily do a local audit from door to door.
@Angelo … to continue on DD voting
The Public Internet Data would be in the form of small databases, say one for each Postcode.
This would allow anyone to use any standard database to analyse and collate the data.
Of course , I would write a set of pgms for my own use, and many other programmers would probably do the same.
But basically, those that are less technically fit , could still use for example a simple “Windows Access Database” to scan the data.
FWIW
@ Mirror
So you´d agree with a majority vote to confiscate all PMs from individuals to finance the public debt?
@Wolferl … LOL
If we had a DD system , I probably wouldn’t need to hold PMs !
@MirrorMirror, very good. Also, yes, Bath, Bristol.
@Max, I read recently in a link on this site that the US exported 25 tons of gold last year.
PS@Wolferl … LOL
If we had a DD system , there probably would be NO public debt either !
… or least NO UNREPAYABLE public debt .. to be more explicit !
@Wolferl. In these circumstances, I would submit for a vote the suggestion of a debt Jubilee.
@Angelo … on Bath
I used to swim in the hot Mineral Waters there .
Do you know if it’s still open to the public ?
BTW … the hot water meant you could only manage 45 minutes , after which you were pretty tired.
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RT : Shock CCTV: Turkey earthquake tremor & blackout caught on camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dNtqjgkCts
Fate of Russia’s Phobos Probe Shrouded in Grim Silence – Nov. 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xifu1WH8Jic
Russian Now Admits Phobos Has Nuclear Components
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJj15QGg4GE
FWIW
@MM. watch what you wish for. metal backed cash is my druthers. i like barter. no trail.
If the risky financial instruments can’t be eliminated, the Tobin tax makes sense to stabilize these instruments. The more the risk, the more the tax.
@ronron … yes, I get your point.
.. but, such a voting system does not mean a cashless society of course.
@MirrorMirror, the original Roman baths have been extensively improved and the town remains a charming summer visit, especially cycling along the river path with the restaurants etc., very civilised. I like to escape south to the Mediterranean in the winter to escape seasonal adjustment depression.
I am in the UK and some of that silver is mine.
I expect a little more to be delivered early next week.
Keep stacking, and take physical delivery.
@ Mirror, Angelo
No public debt? Nobody wants state subsidies, when it´s so easy to introduce a law for them? And of course everybody wants to pay taxes to finance the subsidies, when it´s so easy to get rid of the tax laws? Submit a law, just like Angelo says, i don´t want to pay taxes and of course 50 %plus one vote of the population doesn´t want to pay taxes too. Or a debt. Because nobody wants to pay taxes or debt. And if the rich don´t have gold or silver we just confiscate their land or stocks or whatever they have. Because “the rich” are allways less than 50 % by definition. What you propose is not democrazy but ochlocrazy.
@Jayme … TTax
Actually, the 0.01% (IIRC) they’re talking about is too small to be a deterrent for HFT.
Maybe they should make a fee which includes a time-element.
e.g.
For “n-trades” within 10 seconds, Fee = ( 0.01% ) *n :
So imagine trades of the size : 1,000,000$ :
1 trade in 10 secs. : 100$
2 trades within 10 secs. : 10,000$
3 trades within 10 secs. : 1,000,000$
4 trades within 10 secs. : 100,000,000$
You can bet your life, those traders would stop HFT immediately !
Wahoo SLA, that was a cool outburst @maxkeiser.
Go the SLA
@ Badsey the Hard Power component
And there is the proof again.
The bankstas seem to be completely powerless against this form of attack. Its something that they obviously have never anticipated.
The SLA is starting to chalk up some serious victories. Silver should be at 80$ us per oz today, but the price is still being artificially suppressed’
Osborne is a sub ofcourse how could I have missed that.
The MF Global news is “Stunning” what kind of porn do they use to get those people to “Share the loss” Its doing my head in just thinking about it . Maybe the conspiracy theorists are right and we have alien bankers from the red planet.
YAY Mike Gravel My pick for President I was so sad that he did not win. He was the only one I would have voted for.
What a great show. The TV audience will love that one. I can see it going viral in the US.
@MM. if money becomes honest? morality should return. no? we can feed the people leaving the fire economy. we can,t afford to house them though. this will get tricky. that,s the irony. the bankers create a middle class of there own. they are truly fucked. no skills whatsoever. highly intelligent useless people will be standing in line.
@MirrorMirror – that makes sense.
@Wolferl … you sound like a politician !
i.e. you assume “the people” are stupid and not to be trusted by the sound of it.
#1 Most people realize that public utilities have to be financed in one way or the other.
#2 Most people live in houses – paid and / or rented , and not in the woods
#3 Most people want roads, hospitals, railways etc.
i.e. your premise that most people are cheats and irresponsible scoundrels is exactly what is wrong with the system , which assumes the same .
The facts are that politicians themselves are the scoundrels .. in most cases.
Most people live in houses and not under a tree.
Doesn’t that suggest to you that most people are “responsible citizens” ?
@MM – I take it you mean (0.01%) raised to the n power.
Gravel is a fraud. Just a few years ago he admitted on film that he was for one world government as a desirable solution to the world’s problems, after talking like a libertarians dream come true.
How quickly everyone forgets.
@Wolferl, I see you trust the 1% more than the 99% but that you generally distrust.
We are speculating. I think we must be prepared to grasp opportunities that, as we have seen, present themselves in these turbulent times.
Do we need a fifth column to bring down the corporate cabal? Leaks are the S.L.A. 5th Column at work. I have hope.
@Mirror Mirror
They opened up a new spa in Bath, so you can swim in the water. The project was well over budget and pretty late, but it’s ok, the gf loves it anyway.
@Wolferl, chin up.
http://youtu.be/jHPOzQzk9Qo
http://youtu.be/JWVshkVF0SY
@Jamey … (0.01%) raised to the n power.
Yes !
i.e. after 3 trades ( in 10 seconds ) , they’ve lost all their money.
If the trades are of different sizes, the largest is taken !
2 trades within 10 seconds is reasonable.
Of course , it would never be implemented.
Was just a joke really.
The 0.01% is too small .. they should make it say 0.1%
The mathematical law that shows why wealth flows to the 1%
Supersession. When one paradigm fails and another takes it’s place. But the new system must have it’s currency and Silver is it. We all (SLA) must continue to stack and talk to every person about the obvious value of that. Big Brother is leaving us alone…as in out in the Cold alone. They believe we will fall in line to their next plan but they don’t have a viable plan B. Gravel and Celente should spearhead a new Constitutional Convention. I would hold it at Four Corners in the west on Navaho land, who of course get to participate in this next go around and LOVE SILVER!!!
@ Max
Well if the UK does have a trade deficit based on importing PMs, I’m not that worried!
Sadly I think the major factors are a complete lack of manufacturing and an overvalued currency will keep us screwed
@Majestic, thanks for the link
# Each “Voter” would get a Secret-ID.
# There would be a “Tally” of how many voters live in one street. – MirrorMirror
This is where something like the ‘BITVOTE’ could possibly apply. Each person could be issued a non-counterfeitable voting ballot. I’d like to see something like direct democracy too. I think it would create a more stable and meaningful system.
@Jayme …. “non-counterfeitable voting ballot”
Therein lies the problem … relying on a Co. to produce tickets.
The way I proposed means that the “digital vote” can easily be double-checked using a pencil and paper !
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The political life of Silvio Berlusconi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rodt02fNSXM
3 mins.
@ Mirror
Look at Greece. 2/3 of the population lives by some kind of government funding. But they have the lowest tax/GDP ratio by far in Europe. Did or do they elect resonable leaders, who tell them that Greece has to cut spending? No, they elected those who promise them the most. Why do you think the Greeks suddenly turn into “responsible people” if they do not elect a parliament but use “direct democracy”? They´ll make decisions just like before, they´ll just see there own personal best.
But Greeks are no different than others. Everybody wants nice roads and streets, hospitals, railways, a police and a military for security, some kind of social security system, a good public education system and many things more to be provided by the state. And everybody wants to pay as few taxes as possible. That´s why a democracy in a modern sence of the word has to be based on “check and balances” and not on majority vote.
Found this on Gravel’s youtube channel. Who is this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/user/gravel2008#p/f/10/njG7p6CSbCU
@Got Silver? … Who is he ?
‘You mean Lennon or Gravel ?
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The Gold Cartel End Game – FutureMoneyTrends.com Interviews Andy Hoffman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnamWEvaLt8
33 mins
Max , Stacey , this show keeps going from strength to strength it is awesome !
Osbourne and Cameron really are the two biggest fuckwits ever to grace UK politics and that is saying something maybe with the exception of Blair and brown .
Keep stacking physical !
@Wolferl, from what you write, I do not believe that you have you ever been to Greece.
F.Y.I. Greece it tiny, like the population of a large european city, it is not the problem here, neither are the proportions as you misrepresent. Humbug!
@Sharky – thanks
I’ll have to investigate this Mike Gravel. He’s a democrats… and I don’t trust democrats. Republicans?… same crap…
Mike Gravel’s ideas seem sound… but I really must go on the internet “dig his a**” to know what he’s been voting for… bare with me…
Who can you trust nowadays? No one.
Osborne should know that EVERYONE is trying to export their way out of problems.
News flash Osborne trade is a zero sum game and not everyone can do it.
You better come up with a real plan.
“pencil and paper” MM
yea, simple is good.
USA and Arab League Complicit to Invade Syria:
http://stgeorgewest.blogspot.com/2011/11/usa-and-arab-league-complicit-to-invade.html
Occupy Germany Bid To Save German Democracy:
http://stgeorgewest.blogspot.com/2011/11/occupy-germany-bid-to-save-german.html
@MirrorMirror
Thanks for that Post ..Rev Kevin Annett
I have been trying to follow this /.
@MirrorMirror
this is where i have left off , befor your post .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yccEsW-1BIk
I like Gravel for all his work on 9/11. He is trying to get the truth out. Seems to be a straight shooter. Very dedicated.
The Occupy protesters give me hope also. I haven’t had any hope in a long time.
Here is a good article from the LA OWS:
ttp://www.degaray.com/?p=1619
Oakland OWS is getting a lot of crap from the cops. The UC Berkeley cops were brutal to protesters. They are known for their torture techniques. The average citizen does not realize how important these protest are.
Great show Max. Thanks for having Gravel on. Very interesting man. Good ideas.
John Corzine almost died in a car crash a few years ago. Unfortunately Fortune spared him, and didn’t spare his victims.
Stacy and Max to a great job.
I’ve never heard of Senator Gravel before but like what I hear. It does appear Direct Democracy’s time has come.
As for being in support of global governance; he doesn’t seem to be supporting the elitist form according to his website (MirrorMirror posted link above).
Representative governments––what we call democracies––have become the typical form of governance the world over, except where left-over tyrannies still exist. Representative government has had success when nation-states have been lucky enough to have visionary leaders. But society cannot afford to rely on luck. The insanity of two world wars begs the question and the obvious need for global governance. The naïve intellectual concessions to a global government in creating the League of Nations at the end of the First World War was no match for the selfish realpolitik of the nation-state democracies who controlled world affairs between the world wars. After all, representative government as we experience it seems only to perpetuate the power and interests of elites––the rule of the many by the few.
There remain many issues with pure democracy. It’s an ideology that won’t work in it’s pure form. Any complex society will have ‘organs’ of governance. Some people are ‘more equal’ than others. A real problem is in producing a society that has robustness without being inherently oppressive to individual members. Direct democracy seems like an excellent start if it can be initiated.
You guys fawning over Gravel are nuts. The direct democracy that Gravel wants is horrible, majority vote becomes law. It’s mob rule, tyranny of the majority, instead of rule of law.
direct democracy in action:
The Wild Angels (1966) – Loaded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnGzl-OEyGE
Snake Song – Townes Van Zandt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9r_K8-Hh4g
OT and just for the hell of it:
Dennis Hopper & Peter Fonda in “THE TRIP” (1967)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9jaB1cVNZ4
I haven’t voted in any way shape or form since 1994. I am not keen on having 51% of the population determine my future.
I beleive in rights and property. People can vote all they want as long as those rights aren’t touched, violated or infringed upon.
I also beleive we should be able to choose if we want to fund or participate in ANY government program, initiative or war, without discrimination or repercussion. The database technology exists now where we should be able to fund government a’ la carte: WE get to choose entirely where our own personal tax dollars go on an individual basis in real time.
Watch how quickly wars would end.
Laws, laws, laws.
“Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.”
Mayer Amschel Rothschild
[http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mayer_amschel_rothschild.html#ixzz1dYNlWMMH]
Issuing and controlling money. There’s the cake. Banking is for banks. Credit is for banks. It shouldn’t increase the monetary base. That also implies that the treasury should issue money at no cost or interest, otherwise they would be in the business of banking and they shouldn’t.
Issuing money is always a fiat system, for money is just an abstraction of a means to perform a trade, be it an ounce of gold, or a cow, or a 256 baseball card collection. The latter are the value stores. The money is not. It’s a mere agreed upon symbol thereof. And if it uses a fractional reserve that need not be disastrous per se. It could be, but if applied modestly a small amount of over-leveraging might be in everyone’s best interest. I certainly don’t mean the absurd levels that some states and most system banks have these days.
It kinda touches on FOFOA’s “freegold” idea. It’s probably best to have a sane fiat currency, alas none such exist today. But they have and they will get back in vogue I think. A gold or PM standard might be ok but it will also invite over-leveraging the second they start to use “paper prices”. With that I mean they’ll start over-leveraging the actual PM collateral. Would happen for sure.
So in (FO)(FO)Another’s vein I’m starting to think that a vibrant and undeniable physical exchange market at the micro level for gold and such is best, without it being legal tender (and fall into all the fiat traps while it has actual value of and in itself).
Perhaps this is hard to understand for some folks (research gold and silver standards in the past and fiat moneys in the past, as well as monetary unions btw, we’ve seen them before and they always failed)… gold (and silver) ideally provide “honest liquidity” but not money. because historically they were stuff that could be held near one’s body and it was light to carry and of high trading value. When settled down in a stable economy it was better traded against cows, but when on the run or in the army or whatever, one couldn’t take his cows, but one could keep his gold rings etc. Liquidity is always what matters. In the end, money is a poor substitute for liquidity.
Best whishes,
R3K
@Mirror the declacation of indapendence half way down or there about , refering the king/crown:
HE has combind with OTHERS to subject us to a jurstiction forigen to our constution and unacknolaged by our laws giving his asent to there pretended legislation.
given as example: for ABOLISHING the free system of english laws in a neighbouring provence (canada), establishing therein an arbitary government , and enlarging its boundries(the boundry lay out after the french and indian war) so as to render it at once a fit example and instrament for introducing the same absolute rule in to these colonies
” Direct Democracy”… Sounds familiar to me.jajaja
” Democracia Directa”..Parece algo de otro mundo , no para mi.jajaja
Gracias Max, por este EP me pone contento que se usen estas palabras…
Saludos
me internet tubes are Slow today
I dunno I think I am gettin Swindled …..I have a feelin me ISP has divided me connection …..Bastids !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mystery Radiation Detected ‘Across Europe’
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mystery-radiation-detected-europe/story?id=14932064#.Tr5uWEOAq0u
Watch out ya guys !!!!!!!!
Fook the werld was more peaceful during the Cold War !!!!!!!!!!
Hic
We didnt have fallin satallites at least back then !!!
“The direct democracy that Gravel wants is horrible, majority vote becomes law. It’s mob rule, tyranny of the majority, instead of rule of law.” – AG Hoarder
“Pure” democracy is oppressive. Plato said that the ideal democracy size is for 5300 people. There are social network clusters at about 5 (close friends), 15, 50, 150 (tribes), 500, 1500, 5000, … and higher I am guessing.
this video has a commercial at the beginning:
Dunbar’s Number: Why We Can’t Have More Than 150 Friends [5m7s]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppLFce5uZ3I
Dunbar’s number – networks are not all rational you know
http://curiouscatherine.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/dunbars-number-networks-are-not-all-rational-you-know/
In practice I don’t believe Direct Democracy would be the same thing as Democracy. At least not as I hear Gerald Celente describing it. I think Celente and Gravel are simply visionaries, however I haven’t read Gravel’s bill and may be wrong. Celente refers to “important” issues being voted on such as war, taxes, and whatever else might actually impact an individual’s life.
Direct Democracy Now
http://directdemocracynow.org/
Celente is looking for social networking volunteers. Here is a repost from kdt on social networking. A very interesting article about Albert-László Barabási’s work.
This Man Could Rule the World
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-10/man-could-rule-world
This is a good lecture:
Networks Understanding Networks, Pt. 6: Albert-László Barabási [43m22s]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni_A2bAkUww
What would you propose as an alternative?
@ jayme
What would you propose as an alternative?
The Vatican Library ……..Free Energy Technology …….
Hic
@ Max …..Calm Down …..y’al blow a Valve !!!!!!!!
Brilliant Guest …Great Show !!!!!!!
Yet the People have been brainwashed for years. There is a tendency for people to simply resurrect the same, as that is all they know and are familiar with.
7 billion people
Darth Boroso has nearly completed the European Death Star. What needs understanding is that by completion it needs to die, by debt (get it? Death Star). This will allow Emperor Rothchild to pinch the sovereign gold (not before the price doubles mind you it’s a lot of debt and yes they want it all). China might come in and piss on the pillage of the PIIGS, so the Emperor will send in Darth Ben-Nutti to start WW111- nice decoy with even more fringe benefits.
@luke Boshier:
And what makes you think Rothschild can accroach the imperium?
@ swell
The Devil or the Deep Blue Sea, Better the Devil you know.
@ swell
because they are Psychopaths who dont think they need to accroach it, they think they are it
@ swell
in truth its pissing beautiful non-toxic rain outside, i am bored and don’t own an x-box. beardo is not around to piss off so am thinking up all sorts of crap.
Sunday, November 13, 2011
Ron Paul Dominates CBS Poll After Tonight’s Debate, CBS Completely Removes Poll Results
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-wwbrihlXts#!
“Stop beating Students”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buovLQ9qyWQ&feature=player_embedded
Eurozone bail-out fund has to resort to buying its own debt
Europe’s €1 trillion rescue fund has been forced to buy its own debt as outside investors become increasingly concerned about the worsening eurozone sovereign debt crisis.
RECAP: Why A €1 Trillion EFSF Is Not A “Bazooka” But A “Peashooter”, And Is Woefully Inadequate
‘Gaddafi couldn’t kill more people than NATO did’:
http://stgeorgewest.blogspot.com/2011/11/gaddafi-couldnt-kill-more-people-than.html
I’ve heard on this show several time the question of corporations being people but I believe there is also the problem of people being corporations. A natural person is NOT a man or women. It is a corporate fiction created to enslave you. Their laws do not apply to you. Please research Common Law. I found it a eye opener.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Jxr-eJZ44
P.S. @ Max and Stacy, I love it when you pistol whip Cameron and Osborne. Up the SLA!
anyone here in Limerick?
China’s Hu Pledges More Imports
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-12/hu-says-china-will-increase-imports-to-help-boost-world-economic-growth.html
“We’ll be buying more gold BiTchEZ!’
Just wondering why you can’t trade silver and gold during the weekend?
What are they, Quackerz?
Hello, Is there anybody in there?
Roger Waters @ AT&T Park-San Francisco -5-11-2012
Psychotronic substances are in play…
http://youtu.be/JU-OSLBKwG0
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Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE
11 mins.
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Libya, The Real Story
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/war-is-a-racket/libya-the-real-story.html
22 mins.
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@Angelo … Libya
Check out : http://libyasos.blogspot.com/p/gaddafi.html
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I have my real silver stashed and now its just a matter of time before the whole lot goes bang and silver will go through the roof.
Thanks Max and Stacy for telling us all the truth and standin up to these dick tators!
Plus Mike Gravel probably has the right idea with his legislation but how do you get 51% of the population to agree on anything?
if all the people @OccupyWallSt take a credit card max it out on silver & gold then default on the cards they will bring the banks down
Tony Blair Talks Dirty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcO8Lp_S55c&feature=related
“This is a reality interview, the dangers are real!” Green Soldier in Tunisia
http://stgeorgewest.blogspot.com/2011/11/green-soldier-in-tunisia-islamic.html
@snoop diddy, “Tony Blair Talks Dirty” BRILLIANT!
@MirrorMirror, thanks for the links.
Enjoyed the show and the guest was a revelation. At least Gravel is trying to come up with a way of breaking the embrace between corporations and government.
My problem with direct democracy (especially when people set the policies) is that if it had existed in the UK, many innocent people would have been executed. I am serious. Since polls began the majority of UK citizens have wanted to reintroduce the death penalty. There’s your direct democracy for ya.
I would have to read Gravel’s book to see how he deals with issues like that.
Banks to dump more Italian debt
@Angelo,
Nigella is a good one too from that same person.
Re: direct democracy.
i too will need to read the book. Corporations have consitutions etc so it’s not much of a stretch to apply it to communities within an already structured law system. Religions, clubs would also be similar I guess (apart from the democracy) of a subset of rules inside a sysytem. It’s interesting. i’ll have to have a look at the book. The thing is corporations, religions and clubs all have their lobby groups and pollies under the thumb so communities definitely need to organise what they consider necessary law to pressure pollies.
Once the “race to the bottom” is in full swing in the West (I am still convinced that Bankers and their Economist shills are advising their clients and governments to pursue this policy) then full scale revolutions will be triggered. Whether the masses will be brutally repressed; totally lobotomized by MSM and video games; or actually successful in overturning Corporatism, is another matter.
John Pilger – The Outsiders: Wilfred Burchett
83. John Pilger interviews Australian journalist Wilfred Burchett. He was the first foreign correspondent to enter Hiroshima after the atomic bomb was dropped and attracted controversy for his activities during the Korean and Vietnam Wars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKxqOQhv-0
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Gold to $2.000 oz at the end of 2011(Reuters Insider) – Vid
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The Story of Broke (2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G49q6uPcwY8
8 mins.
POLLUTERS = LOOTERS = GOVT. LOBBYISTS
Not bad … a good start.
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I recommend everybody to read ATLAS SHRUGGED.
…. especially the 3 page Oratory on “Money” from Francisco.
Aha .. seems like many people agree :
Francisco’s Money Speech from Atlas Shrugged should be required reading in school
http://vagabondsrose.com/2010/07/26/franciscos-money-speech-from-atlas-shrugged-should-be-required-reading-in-school/
Francisco’s ‘Money’ Speech from “Atlas Shrugged”
TRANSCRIPT HERE :
http://www.working-minds.com/money.htm
The super rich Francisco made the speech to a stupid lady at a party that had said to him “The Root of all Evil is Money” … knowing that Reardon was (secretly ) listening to him .
The best part after the speech was when Francisco told Reardon to stay and watch the fireworks . The fireworks were :
Francisco cleverly told one of the parasites at the party ( with the usual Govt. connections ) that his Copper mining shares will crash tomorrow.
The parasite went into panic mode and the story spread like wildfire to ALL the parasites at the party ( the “mouchers” and “looters” ). The patterns of panic emerging on the floor were hilarious ; people grouping and going quiet ; and then regrouping … while all headed for the door !
LOL .. a great piece in the book.
BTW, Francicso admitted to Reardon that his “people” in the mines had planned to use explosives to collapse main parts of the mines the next day.
The moral of this part of the story being simply :
The people at the party were Govt.-parasites that had successfully destroyed the good American Industrialists such that there were shortages of coal, oil, steel etc. All in the name of higher aspirations aka Socialism.
These “Looters” had all put their fraudulently earned money into the shares of Francisco’s Copper Company, while at the same time despising him for being “so rich” !!
Get the book and read it .. it’s sort’of the story of life .. my life as well.
Question from planning4acrash: So, let me get this right. The Eurozone Bailout fund has resorted to deficit spending to fund deficit spending of nation states, to pay interest on unsustainable loans which would otherwise be in default?
Correct me if I am wrong, but is this not hyper-inflationary?
Answer by Youri Carma: Aside from the question wether this move is hyper-inflationary or not, which I see as a ‘lack of trust event’ not a monetary event, it is inflationary without a doubt.
You only have to look at what the U.S. FED has done allready to see this inflation being exported around the globe.
See: Don’t Be Fooled, Inflation Is Already Here http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=194775.msg1313677#new
The FED has set up special vehicles to buy up it’s own debt and now holds more of it’s own debt than even the Chinese do.
The funny thing tough is when the EU is just starting on the same path as the FED the U.S. media cries murder and fire while they’ve been doing exactly the same for years now.
Bottomline: Inflation for sure but at the end of the road lack of confidence in the Euro and US-Dollar system will create the much feared hyper-inflation.
@MirrorMirror,
thanks, interesting to see the Kochbots activated in the comments anytime the EPA is mentioned LOL
@Mirror Mirror
Are you f**king serious?
“The moral of this part of the story being simply :
The people at the party were Govt.-parasites that had successfully destroyed the good American Industrialists such that there were shortages of coal, oil, steel etc. All in the name of higher aspirations aka Socialism.
These “Looters” had all put their fraudulently earned money into the shares of Francisco’s Copper Company, while at the same time despising him for being “so rich” !!”
Do you really believe Corporations are corrupted by government? Is that your analysis of the problem?
I will read Atlas Shrugged but ALL the people you paint in your description sound like parasites – with Francisco being the biggest one of all.
@Flopot … “Do you really believe Corporations are corrupted by government?”
No … my post was oversimplified for the sake of brevity …. you have to read the whole book to understand the full scope.
The Govt. are the effectively the Corporations …. & the parasites are those that use Govt. (lawmaking) power to manipulate the economy/market etc.
If you had watched my “Lobbyist Whistleblower” Video – posted yesterday – you wouldn’t be asking me such silly questions.
@Flopot …. “but ALL the people you paint in your description sound like parasites – with Francisco being the biggest one of all.”
LOL … that is why you should read the book AND .. read Francisco’s speech.
Okay!
It’s a battle royal with the SLA throwing Cameron over the top rope. –Another OWS enters the ring joining the SLA team. I see a speculator getting choked with a roll of silver Eagles rammed down his throat. It seems the ref is allowing rolls of silver in the ring since his pension has been getting screwed by the Speculators.
…that’s added to my GIABO book wishlist
“His name was on the lips of everyone I talked with in South Korea last week. As an underdog with little name recognition but a long history of progressive organizing, he came from behind late last month to become the new mayor of Seoul.
Remember his name. Park Won Soon is perhaps the first politician to win with an Occupy Wall Street platform.”
http://www.fpif.org/articles/seoul_salvation
@MirrorMirror,
Atlas Shrugged always seemed just ‘wrong’ to me. .The ideal just didn’t have an example in history to compare to. Money always tends towards power and bureaucracy.
All this talk of ‘money is a tool of exchange’ has never been the case.
It’s always been a tool of power.
‘Money is made possible only by the men who produce.’
No, products are made possible by who men who produce. Money is a tool invented by those who can enforce it or not, whether as David Graeber writes simply as a favour owed back to someone. Money is always about manipulation.
‘The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide– as, I think, he will. ‘
Afghans, Iraqis, Vietnamese, etc etc etc may differ on that point.
Question from planning4acrash: When does the exponential curve go vertical? Gold right now appears to be heading for that territory. It looks tho like that provides a way out for Italy. At Euros 10,000/ounce, they could cover about half of their national debt. I reckon they would rather gold at the $50,000 that would reflect the inflation of the last few decades.
So, everything put into context, they will probably run gold up that high, allowing the major countries to bail themselves out with their reserves and, the IMF will be able to bail everybody else out. Problem is, that the IMF then has control over most nations and you have your one world government.
Answer by Youri Carma: I must say that I find the answer on the question ‘who holds how much gold’ very murky. The central banksters have been adding loads of paper-gold to the system over the years by double counting, leasing and what have you.
So the solution which you refer to, also brought forward by James Rickards, is not easy to see trough since all central banksers lie about their actual physical gold holdings.
Dutch central bankster Nout Wellink (CFR member and Bilderberger) always said to his colleagues: “There are two thing you can lie about as central banker, gold and interest rates.”
And than there is the question what will happen with the gold of of countries like Germany who have 60% of their gold stored in the U.S.? Will the U.S. confiscate that gold like Rickards is suggesting as an possibility? Rickards also posed the question if Central banksters will count the paper-gold which would lead to a dishonest ‘fractional’ gold standard not to be taken seriously.
Bottomline: We simply havn’t got the transparecy in the system now to answer that question. Gold priced will go beserk tough in some point in time but nobody knows exactly when.
instead of LLC how about mega-corporations have to put TBTFTPLC (Too Big too Fail Tax Payer Liability Corporation)
Democracy does need to be changed…. but may I suggest the following variant:
Instead of elections, parliamentarians are picked randomly like folks for jury duty. Duration of service 2 years and one can’t be selected a 2nd time. Every year 50% of seats in parliament are up for renewal. Could be you next time, or the granny living next door, the self employed car mechanic down the road, the unemployed single mom just as likely as a lawyer or bus driver. Eligible citizens are randomly picked – under supervision and publicly broadcast, akin to a lottery draw.
Only this way will we ever get a parliament representing a fair cross section of society, not beholden to campaign donors or unaffordable election promises needed to buy votes. No more party politics, insider deals and political dynasties incestuously having themselves re-elected to levers of power.
Your thoughts?
Funny Pic: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i144/madbello/Merkozy.jpg
That guest was scary!
Slovenian Bond Yield Breaks 7%, First Time Since Euro Entry
@Juan Moment, “Open, Direct, Lottery Government” O.D.L.G.
Fotograaf VS Videograaf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o9pKc-iFoQ
Sen. Gravel: “I know from personal experience – politicians are COWARDS, judges [even more so!]”
(and academics and mid-level bureaucrats even more so – they are dependent on the PLUMBS that FALL from the BIG MONEY TREE – and the BIG BOYS are EXPERT at PURGING anyone in academia, politics, govt. bureaucracy, and even (competitive, productive) business who steps on their toes… i.e. exposes their crimes!
thanks, Max & Stacy, for that terrific interview(s), and for (re-) introducing us to the courageous Senator Gravel and Paul Craig Roberts.
THE PROBLEM IS SIMPLICITY ITSELF: the banks, the hyper-wealthy, and the bribed politicians who answer their dictates, ARE NOT SUBJECT to following the law!
It is IMPOSSIBLE to RESIST the power of the fiat MONEY PRINTING CARTEL – they just PRINT UP MONEY, and use it to BRIBE politicians – and then PURGE their adversaries.
During the 50′s, 60′s, 70′s, and 80′s, the Banksters had to RESTRAIN some of their MONEY PRINTING impulse, because the “Cold War” demanded SOME wealth “trickle down” to the population…
…but with the “End of the Cold War” the banksters were relieved of ANY constraints, and, with “DEREGULATION” FRAUD BECAME LEGAL – and fraud failures were PAPERED OVER by the Fed printing money.
but now 2 decades of DEREGULATION have exposed the fiat money cartel PONZI SCHEME as the ANTI-COMPETITIVE, progress crushing, monopoly wealth & EXTORTION, built on DEBT PEONAGE house of cards that it is….
@ Juan Moment
Great. The unemployed single mom´s vote will be for sale for pennies compared to the situation now. Besides she´ll have no clue what she is doing there anyway. Do you think someone who isn´t able to organize her own life is able to take care of the affairs of a country?
Ministers plan £50bn growth boost
@snoop diddy …‘The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide– as, I think, he will. ‘…
As I said to Flopot, you have to read the whole book to understand the context.
In the above case, all Francisco was saying that those who destroy money will cause the world to end up in the dark ages. i.e. barter, war, caves.
“dollar” was just short-hand for “Money” … he was not talking about the USD.
UK seeking $80 billion infrastructure boost-report
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Germany must decide if it wants the eurozone to survive or perish
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/liamhalligan/8886350/Germany-must-decide-if-it-wants-the-eurozone-to-survive-or-perish.html
Basically, I think Germany would like to leave, but can’t say it.
.. and help via another EUR member suggesting it , hasn’t happened yet.
I think it will happen , as the blame-game hots up … & then it’s over , because the market will then decide.
Fresh concern over eurzone debt crisis
Wolferl,
as I wrote, just like jury duty. And if an in between jobs single mom can make it onto a jury bench, and be trusted to make the right decision when it comes to criminal cases and dishing out judicial punishment, possibly life or death sentences, then surely she should be considered to have enough common sense to judge political matters.
Secondly, the laws and resolutions the parliament delivers affect her as much as the lawyer or bus driver, just on that count does she have as much right to be involved in the political process as the next person.
Thirdly, in all likelihood she will have far more of an idea of what a liter of milk costs and how to household with limited funds. She knows probably better than many others that hard choices need to be made to not break the budget.
And lastly, unemployed single parents make up less than 5% of the population, so no sweat.
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Eurozone bail-out fund has to resort to buying its own debt
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8886380/Eurozone-bail-out-fund-has-to-resort-to-buying-its-own-debt.html
LOL … as if we expected anything else.
Coal to keep burning on strong Asian demand
Coal is set to remain a major energy source alongside oil over the next 25 years on strong Asian demand.
@MirrorMnirror,
I read about 300 pages of it, but I found it so goddamned boring. I havent been that bored since trying to read Mein Kampf.
I felt like I was being guided down a very restrictive corridor of Rand’s creation.
Anyway, i would think money is not something that can be destroyed. It’s always about favours and manipulation. It’s the whole ‘we built this for you so you better worship us’ BS I dont like.
I would be more libertarian leading than anything but in the end it’s just another ideoology, I mean look at Wolferl’s comment on single mothers. There’s always a bias somewhere.
this is my little take on money:
I guess the first gold money or other shiny whatever was all about finding something simply and handing it over for something else you needed. The ‘vain’ versus the ‘essential’ and the comparative advantage was about trading it further away from the source so it was rarer. So I guess money creates incentive for products to be distributed because it creates an unequilibrium between what you can produce and consume, and what you can produce/find and store. Whereas the farmer may now have a gold ingot for vain reasons and sold some veges he now has to make sure he has enough for himself or trade his ingot on. Then the next door farmer sees he’s got ingots so realises there is some potential for creating a product so he looks for ingots and still has to maintain his farm or trade something for his own needs etc.
so then the farmer next door if successful may now have more ingots and create a bit of a hysteria and there’s a bubble in people wanting ingots but then everyone’s searching and finding ingots so the first farmer’s ingot isnt worth quite as much yadda, yadda, yadda. But by the end of it supply lines have been expanded and sources of distribution which then ends up in a depression and people displaced from traditional way of life might are now dependent on the logistics of the new economy. It sort of sounds what Steve Keen is talking about when I think of it.
Very entertaining as always. I would just like to add that although direct democracy sounds like a good idea, the wealthy sociopaths behind the financial destruction are confident that the majority have been socially engineered to ask for the very solutions that would only enhance the banksters agenda. I despise the wealthy sociopaths, but marvel at their ability to manipulate the booboisie.
Wolferl, in direct response to the points you made:
The unemployed single mom´s vote will be for sale for pennies compared to the situation now.
She’ll be suddenly on a parliamentarians salary of what? 100k? Thats already 6 times more than what she had while on unemployment benefits. Unlike the lawyer, who is used to roll in cash, she is much less inclined to accept bribes.
Besides she´ll have no clue what she is doing there anyway.
Are you implying that the bunch of crooks and slime balls who manage to get themselves elected have a clue?
Do you think someone who isn´t able to organize her own life is able to take care of the affairs of a country?
I can’t follow your prejudice. In my world view, being currently out of work does not translate to inability to organize ones life. And why some moron who is too thick to ever do anything productive but excels at brown nosing and keeping his/her job that way is better suited to take care of the nation’s affairs, is for you to explain.
World coal production stood at 4.928 billion tonnes in 2009, providing around a quarter of the globe’s total energy output
New technologies helping to make coal a cleaner form of energy, and an expected decline in the use of nuclear power across developed nations after Japan’s recent disaster, is set to boost demand for the mined fuel.
China relies on coal for nearly 70% of its energy needs.
United States — the world’s second biggest producer of coal after China.
By 2020, when it comes to coal imports, India will be a new China as the largest importer of coal in the world
@MirrorMirror,
and even then Im not sure which comes first, the supply line or the money, I would probably say the supply line as people wander and someone finds something of interest they have brought from somewhere else like a seashell for carrying water inland etc.
@Wolferl “Great. The unemployed single mom´s vote will be for sale for pennies compared to the situation now. Besides she´ll have no clue what she is doing there anyway. Do you think someone who isn´t able to organize her own life is able to take care of the affairs of a country?”
Yes, she could. I suggest that the most difficult thing we do in our lives is to learn a language. There will always be a basic criteria e.g. age to vote, the ability to speak a language should perhaps be the only other.
In any event don’t we need our representatives to represent not organise.
@snoop diddy ….
The main purpose of money is the “divisibility of barter” .
Of course, exactly this – without a reference point – is what allows money to be Abused !
That’s why I would like to see a “fixed reference point”, like Gold or Silver.
Everything else is at the mercy of political manipulation !
PS: Oil
Before everyone starts on about Oil being black gold … LOL.
Wanna put yourselves at the mercy of the Oil Companies ?
And Peak Oil would mean hyperinflation if you used it to a large %-age in the SDRs … & SDRs are Global Fiat anyway.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/13/apec-idUSN1E7AB0D220111113
APEC leaders seek firewall against Europe crisis
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Trilateral Commission influence in the Eurozone
http://www.augustforecast.com/2011/11/11/trilateral-commission-influence-in-the-eurozone/
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@MirroMirror,
“The main purpose of money is the “divisibility of barter” .”
I’m not so sure it started like that. It probably started as just another thing to barter or trade or impress the chicks with. But once the ingots had started to be traded and a king put his head on them in Lydia the first permanent shop did appear.
China’s Hu pushes for larger global role
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The network of global corporate control
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf
19.9.2011 – 36 pages
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Borneo mines lure Rothschild into the wild
Nat Rothschild tries on activist-investor role
A Coal-Mining Champion Named Rothschild
@ Juan Moment
I knew you´ll react the way you did.
A salary of 100 k doesn´t prevent bribery. If, for example, the mom is offered a weel-paid job in an industry if she votes in favour of the industry she´ll do it. And of course, you´ll need some kind of education, training or special experience to make decision on a higher level. Someone who managed to get nominated by a party structure for a position has to have some of those abilities.
I´m not totally opposed to some “random elements” in the political process. But a system that is based on random decisions will fail in a very short time.
@mirrorMirror,
Don’t mind me I’m just rambling for the most part too and seeing where the cards end up lol
It’s interesting that we have Greek empire, gold money and democracy appearing at the same time. I really wish I knew more about such things to see if there was a correlation.
Ha ha hee
David Icke skewers Jesse “the body” Ventura, ex navy seal
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/56029-jesse-ventura-pet-detective-a-must-read-
yep, direct democracy would equal a return to the death penalty in a lot of European countries. Plus if there’d been a vote to bomb the crap out of Afghanistan in say October 2001, likewise a large majority in US & EU wouldve voted for it. The masses just cannot think rationally on many issues.
“George Osborne’s admission that he has no power over bankers and that the population will always have to pay for their crimes.”
Really George…Really?…I don’t think so. It would be a good idea to consult the other 60 million UK residents to see if they agree with that spineless excuse for a statement…I’m certain you would receive a rather unpleasent surprise.
corbett http://www.activistpost.com/2011/11/g20-and-global-financial-infrastructure.html
Moody’s attacks EU plans to overhaul ratings regulation
GRAVEL!
Empower you
http://youtu.be/C_UbISISXr8
http://youtu.be/JKdLZ9P9RdQ
Highlights
If, for example, the mom is offered a weel-paid job in an industry if she votes in favour of the industry she´ll do it.
The same degree of risk applies to any other member of parliament, unemployed or not. A corrupt lawyer will take the job offer much like a self-serving unemployed mom would.
But more importantly , if you think about it, in a random selected parliament without a party system, where all they had to do is bribe a couple of the party’s key figures and decision makers, industry would now have to bribe at least 50% of parliamentarians to have it guaranteed their way.
And of course, you´ll need some kind of education, training or special experience to make decision on a higher level. Someone who managed to get nominated by a party structure for a position has to have some of those abilities.
Are you sure about that? The screwed up situation the world finds itself in is exactly because of our perceived intelligentsia and other so called experts having driven the truck against the wall.
And have you noticed how with the current system, after a cabinet reshuffle the former minister for agriculture is all with a sudden the minister for transport or defense? In some governments front benchers change portfolios quicker than the maintenance guy can change their name signs on the door.
Also, from my observation, the people rising to the top of party hierarchies are not of the educated selfless type, but career politicians happy to sell out on any issue as long as it furthers their advance up the power ladder. To see just how smart they are have a look at greasy von Gutenberg’s and other prominent German politicians being sprung lately for plagiarism or outright buying their doctor dissertations.
Michael Pento – How CB Bazookas Will Impact Gold & Economy
Excerpt:
The ECB has a very short window in which they can create inflation to bring down bond yields. That’s because the main determinants of how much it costs a country to borrow money in the international markets are the credit, currency and inflation risks of their debt. In pulling out his inflation bazooka, Mr Draghi is rapidly increasing all three risks and much higher yields are virtually guaranteed in the near future.
Of course, not to be outdone, Mr. Bernanke and his cadre of counterfeiters at the Fed have sent oil prices back to $100 a barrel, M2 up 10% YOY and the Misery Index to a 28 year high. The threat of yet more quantitative easing has sent many commodity prices rising and gold in shouting distance of its record nominal high. With central bankers around the globe consistently coming up with plans to destroy paper currencies, can someone justify a reason no to buy more gold and gold stocks?”
Jim Rickards, November 12, 2011 – Audio http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2011/11/12_Jim_Rickards.html
Never miss the Weekly:
KWN Weekly Metals Wrap, November 12, 2011 – Audio http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2011/11/12_KWN_Weekly_Metals_Wrap.html
And:
Webster Tarpley’s World Crisis Radio, November 12, 2011 http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/
Understand you are pissed with the current situation. But what you are proposing will make the situation even worse. And you are right, at a certain point people have to take things in their own hand. But from outside the system. Some people in Germany took things in their hand in the Guttenberg case and he had to go within a few weeks. But if people just expect some benefits from the system and do not care anymore if they get them the system will be broke some day.
Peter Schiff has actually favoured that same sort of principle where govt is like jury duty.
And the gold standard is not so special if your govt sucks. Stalin was on a gold standard, didn’t actually mean more freedom for anyone, and they would have still be driving up debt from war loans etc. But it meant they could still trade internationally with a trusted money and the Soviets could mine plenty and let the rest of the country go to hell with messed up supply lines and oppress the people doing that anyway. But the elites still got their foreign imports.
It is nice to have a fairly steady frame of reference though. Hugh Hendry made an intersting point on one of his vids, that the US made it under a gold standard where there was only one chance to make it with the capital you had unlike china which has is making it under a paper currency where the wasteand malinvestment is so much more abundant.
great guest …..excellent message also being promoted by Gerald Celente and by the amount of comments I’d say that this shows the power of his message WE , THE PEOPLE , have ! thanks for introducing him on your show.
First Lucas Papademos ecb prime minister greece, now Mario Monti international advisor to Goldman Sachs and a member of the advisory board of the Coca-Cola Company.
BANKER AND CORPORATE TAKE OVER 1 COUNTRY AT A TIME
APEC summit highlights Sino-US rift – Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5PrthjW7vA
Sorry to say but Rickards says there is not much inflation in the US and that it will only come when the Yuan appreciates. That’s just right out bull!
FED printing drives up oil prices and stimulates a dollar decline which both are highly inflationary.
U.S. wholesale prices surge in September – Gasoline, vegetables propel 0.8% increase last month , 18 October 2011, by Jeffry Bartash – Washington (MarketWatch) http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-wholesale-prices-surge-in-september-2011-10-18
USDA hikes inflation forecasts for beef, eggs, 23 September 2011, by Ian Berry (MarketWatch) http://www.marketwatch.com/story/usda-raises-price-view-for-beef-eggs-2011-09-23
Charting inflation, manufacturing and real estate – Week’s economic indicators show inflation on uptick, 16 September 2011, (MarketWatch) http://www.marketwatch.com/story/charting-inflation-manufacturing-and-real-estate-2011-09-16
Core inflation – Inflation excluding food and energy hit 2% in August, the highest 12-month rate since late 2008.
U.S. consumer prices jump 0.4% in August – ‘Core’ rate of inflation hits highest 12-month level since late 2008, 15 September 2011, by Jeffry Bartash – Washington (MarketWatch) http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-consumer-prices-jump-04-in-august-2011-09-15-851480
First Lucas Papademos ecb prime minister greece, now Mario Monti international advisor to Goldman Sachs and a member of the advisory board of the Coca-Cola Company.
BANKER AND CORPORATE TAKE OVER 1 COUNTRY AT A TIME
hand off. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/52896705-82/bagley-cartoon-facebook-lake.html.csp
@ Bonn
Bloomberg’s EnergyNow Names E-Cat as Week’s HotZone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfQIHNSiu24
E-Cat Technology by Andrea Rossi of Leonardo Corporation
http://www.leonardo-ecat.com/fp/
Leonardo Corporation Web Site Now Live, Rossi Says ‘Not Approved’ Wants it Taken Down Due To Errors
http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/11/leonardo-corporation-web-site-now-live-rossi-says-not-yet-official-due-to-errors/
More In: Don’t Be Fooled, Inflation Is Already Here http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=194775.msg1313677#new
You guys are at your best when you lead the charge of the SLA! Great show, and Mark and I are looking forward to your interview with Rivero!
ned. http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/podcast/2735/tfmr-podcast-4-ned-naylor-leyland
IAEA Iran Report Spins Intelligence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiLBCpgxrdg
@Claire. when is this interview? aloha
@Youri Carma
You wouldn’t know it if you didn’t have something to compare it too but another way inflation is hidden is by reducing content. Even the size of toilet paper is smaller. If inflation is computed by the serving and the serving size decreases, did inflation occur? It’s a tree falling in the forest koan.
sick. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/12/gop-debate-audience-cheers-waterboarding/
The montage for what people cheer at GOP debates would be real telling.
The 1% are the very best destroyers of wealth the world has ever seen
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/07/one-per-cent-wealth-destroyers
EFF Asks Supreme Court to End the FCC’s Indecency Regulations
Former FCC Chairs Slam Current FCC Commission’s ‘Victorian Crusade’
Mike Gravel wow, right on! I like this guy! It is so good to hear and see someone who gets it right, as we move forward in these best of times worst of times. I’m impressed.
take a good chunk of the protesters around the country and walk into a state – filibusterer –
change government, enact the rule of law, fund small business, create affordable housing, barter, educate
if you build it they will come
The revolution does not come to you, you must go to the revolution
Liberals should head to Vermont
Libertarians to New Hampshire
be the role model for the nation
good show Max and Stacy
Osborne loves a three line whip.
He will give up anything… promises, pledges, the small change in his back pocket. He’s a one-term, here today, gone tomorrow, fuck all squared nonentity.
Novae hot stuff!!
M+S and everyone hope you all had a great weekend
Latest Fukushima pictures (1 minute)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRMM5nuFGpI
”The Real Reason Why War Is Coming To Iran” ..
http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=10271
Nigel though!
Nigel pays his own way, that’s a good start.
”America as a hyper power could only be challenged if nations formed an ‘anti-hegemon’ like the alliance of the all nations that do not profit off the current NWO”
Silver Shield
In Osborne’s defence it ,ust be said that he isn’t a Goldman Sachs place man…
So, he can exit with some honour. He has the distinction of being elected in the first place.
The minority voted. He was luckier than he dreamed of, or was capable of living up to.
Principles have a price, and can be sold out. I look forward to his explanations. No, I don’t really, vaseline explains it. Compromise for elevation.
Whoops! I’m in the government! Whip me now!
I never tire of satire.
Ventura, CA Police using armored vehicles in the streets (military style)
http://uswgo.com/ventura-ca-police-using-armored-vehicles-in-the-streets.htm/comment-page-1#comment-42364
If the 1 billion is true, then I believe the City is involved in this accumulation. The question is what are they up to?
people devoted to the details of direct initiatives
http://www.initiativeforchange.org/
@Max & Sherbert
Top Comment on YouTube :- Max needs to create his own energy drink, I see huge potential ^^
You might like to have a word with Professor Ian Fells CBE, PhD, FREng, FRSC, FInstE, FIChemE, FRSE , who has a copywrite on “DD” (safe to Drink & Drive) a beverage brewed with ancient ‘euphoric’ herbal extracts. BTW. Hazel Fells sets most of the Times crossword puzzles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Fells
i,m on the shit list, but this is good. http://www.cheviot.co.uk/sound-money-conference/presentations/why-gold-is-the-currency-of-the-free
Ex-CIA Agent: America Creates Its Own Enemies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1BP7DIAGDM
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EU accounts not signed off for 17th year in row (12Nov11)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkcrd_iPyZI
Says …: “nearly half of all transactions were ‘affected’ by Error ”
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Nigel Farage discusses falling apart Euro project (12Nov11)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ0IPL8ViCw
15 mins
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@ronron:
Your still here lol.
European Crisis Through Eyes of 11-Year Old in Comic he Created http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/11/european-crisis-through-eyes-of-11-year.html
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DZP3Eg2s1F0/Tr4dQL5ftBI/AAAAAAAANMg/SR5r8YOEIKw/s1600/EuroSave-1.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cu_d0D6slC4/Tr4d6PTdeyI/AAAAAAAANMs/ygjNVHnc4IU/s1600/EuroSave2-2-1.png
@Namarama. i don,t deserve this treatment.
Slovenian Bond Yield Breaks 7%, First Time Since Euro Entry
Slovenian Economist Emails “Our Banking System is on Brink of Collapse”; Housing Crash and Incompetent Bureaucrats Blamed
@ronron:
Get your own site. Hahaha!
@Namarama. Stacy and i talk weekly now, so it is an improvement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e5RQHgoB-g
@nama rama
ronron has his own site, it’s called maxkeiser.com
@Youri. hahaha. i know. cut me a little slack. i do get some fun here.
@Namarama. did a lot of your friends order elvis medallions? are there a lot in ireland?
This site belongs to all of us. That’s the point of these kinds of sites: involvement. It isn’t just great commentary and opinion on these forums, but great links are posted all the time.
Max attracts the best.
sunday night blastoff in the metals.
@nama rama
At maxkeiser.com ronron has two people working. One is called Max and the other is called Stacy. Altough relationships on the workfloor are frowned upon they don’t seem to give a damn.
Sometimes tough people like silverporno occasionally have to do some work for Max and Stacy like finding a pub for them. I know this sounds all very strange but it’s a true story.
http://www.cheviot.co.uk/sound-money-conference/presentations/gold-price-will-rise-because-gold-is-money
@Alastair Carnegie – yeah, that comment made me laugh as well! funny
@Youri – did @SilverPorno find us a pub yet? Actually, I think Resonance have found us one. Will let you know tomorrow.
@nama rama
Relationships on the workfloor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RvNS7JfcMM
i,m surrounded by love.
gees fuck thanks.
two time slim. you know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhpRAe0YGeY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9vvavR1Qps&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-oA3U-5c8w&feature=related
Wolferl:”Regime change in Italy”
NO, sir.
This is PUPPET change. The Regime stays the same -or worst-
True for Italy or any european regime. This is of course true for the USA:
For the US Selection in 2012, same system: you’ll have a PUPPET change. (Obama replaced). NOT Regime change.
The new US Regime will be worse than the preceding one of course.
@stacyherbert
Donnow about @SilverPorno but since Resonance found you one this question becomes less urgent and I didn’t cover his tracks anyways. I tought we had agreed upon that’s your task, there at the maxkeiser.com handle.
Not colluding again with that Max there on the workfloor , arn’t ya?
He’ll be around.
@stacyherbert
What do you guys like to drink at the pub btw?
we have change to
obama from bush
look where that got us
change you cant beleive in
post from other was good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzGJWtYnAdE&feature=youtu.be
Portugal’s inflation soars on energy prices, 11 November 2011, by David Roman – Madrid (MarketWatch) http://www.marketwatch.com/story/portugals-inflation-soars-on-energy-prices-2011-11-11
Portugal’s statistics agency said Friday inflation in the euro zone’s poorest country soared in October as local energy prices continued their recent climb, the result of European Union-mandated austerity policies.
Portugal’s consumer price index rose to 4.2% in October from 3.6% in September, the National Statistics Institute, or INE, said.
Portugal is currently implementing an austerity program in exchange for a €78-billion bailout from the E.U. and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) .
In order to increase budget revenue, the government is bringing forward increases on electricity and natural gas originally planned for 2012.
On a European Union-harmonized basis, the statistics agency said Portuguese consumer prices rose 4% in October, up from 3.5% on the year in September.
Also See:
IMF Same Exact Four-Step Program: http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
1.0 Privatization ‘Briberization.’
2.0 IMF/World Bank capital market deregulation allows investment capital to flow in and out the “Hot Money” cycle.
3.0 Market-Based Pricing, a fancy term for raising prices on food, water and cooking gas
3.5 IMF and World Bank call their “poverty reduction strategy”: Free Trade- “The IMF riot.”
Italy Senate approves 2012 budget law: reports
Italy’s Senate on Friday approved a budget law that includes new austerity measures .
Mario Monti will replace the outgoing government and will move to implement the austerity plan and measures aimed at freeing up the nation’s labor markets and other aspects of the economy.
Magyar Telekom CFO Laments Hungary Austerity
The Hungarian government’s austerity measures are weighing on Magyar Telekom Nyrt. , company’s chief financial officer said Thursday.
FACT: Austerity doesn’t work
Italy is going to implement new austerity measures while Portugal’s Inflation rises on austerity measures and kills businesses in Hungary. From History we’ve learned about the Argentinian vs IMF debacle.
Greece earlier fell victim to suicidal austerity politics and more to come ….. Crazy!
IMF Agent Papandreou Pushing for National Unity Regime to Impose Genocidal Austerity on Greece – Webster Tarpley on AJS
Imagine controlling the money printing press. As the elite banksters have access to. They control everything with a wink and nod.
I’m surprised that alot of folks dont’ realize this. Maybe the brainwashing and control by the elites and thier big media is working.
Italy Has Become Goldman Sachs Occupied Territory
Once upon a Sunday miscellany http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEoZWNwFs&feature=related
The New World Order Is Upon Us! Alex Jones
http://stgeorgewest.blogspot.com/2011/11/false-flag-aleart-iran-attack.html
looks like the 1% are really getting hungry,
may I suggest a Cornish Pasty,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nDs60iwwew
Oh kool! Now Iranian missle bases are just blowing up all on their own!
Hurry! Get your Persian Rugs Now before they disappear!!
Anarchast Ep. 9 – With Doug Casey of Casey Research
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iXbrVA3-WZ4
i sure wish I could print fake fiat trillions and pocket the money had make your country responsible for paying it. Sweet deal the banksters have going.
This is nuclear. People being able to go around the system and make their own laws based on direct democratic influence on the otherwise opaque, bought lever pullers of power and finally shrug off agreement from the bought off bastards that hate you anyway via critically massed (r)evolution…I don’t know if you guys can see it yet, but this is the answer. This thing will win. Thankyou, former politician moustache guy, well done
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204621904577018201607304964.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Protesters defend Occupy Portland from the police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32cxcQCAS0M
‘Super Mario’ tapped to cure Italy’s economic ills
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/11/13/international/i112509S5'Super Mario’ tapped to cure Italy’s economic ills
Can someone give me an article on this guy. I believe I read/heard he was not a good choice, but i cannot remember where. Thanks.
Corporate Personhood Today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz3hVXrLPqw
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for the hell of it RC plane footage very high above Salem to crash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX1cTTM5ydw
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Naomi Klein speech at #nokxl Rally in DC 11/6/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXtmcoKGtag
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Decision Time For Europe: The Definitive Presentation On The Future (Or Lack Thereof) Of The Eurozone
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/decision-time-europe-definitive-presentation-future-or-lack-thereof-eurozone
Silver And Platinum Bullion Coin Sell Outs
http://www.perthmintbullion.com/blog/blog/11-11-14/Silver_And_Platinum_Bullion_Coin_Sell_Outs.aspx
Excellent program Max and Stacey, yes the truth will out
Direct democracy?! This is the answer.
There is NO left, there is NO right. These are illusions. There IS in power and out of power. The in power DO what their owners decide, the out of power SAY what the people want to hear. When the colour of the party in power changes at voting the actors merely swap scripts and the policy direction carries on in the way the owners have written it.
Only voting for fully explained and elaborated policy/law will see true democracy. Voting for parties every few years just gives new people their go to take a place at the party table while the Cheshire cat smiles on. There they can play their part passing acts of government as the ACTORS that they are. There are clear reasons why they are called parties and they pass acts.