81 thoughts on “Libertarians like Lew Rockwell and Rand Paul are idiots.”
blindman
” as long as the world is round, ain’t nothin’ on the level “. . anon?/unknown
Betty
…and so, where’s the beef? Yes, Rand P is your typical flipfloping political scumbag, however Lew Rockwell never seems to say anything idiotic and IMHO is factual & sensible. I have lost a lot of respect for MK from this one headline, unless it can be clarified.
Mattdog
So glad my parents sold their property on the Outer Banks.
Nigel Farage just had a MELTDOWN on FoKKKs business “news” …. blaming everything on the communist BOOGEYMAN and sucking up to the Americans by DENYING that the reason for the Eurozone’s problems is US TBTF banks’ toxic derivatives.
The only thing that we know for certain is ‘anthropogenic’, is the unending stream of disinformation emanating from self-proclaimed experts, about climate “statistics”
they actually know little or nothing about. The “evidence” presented here is a good
case in point. My guess is the reference to Libertarians is just more routine
unthinking, and wholly irrelevant, signature MK bombast.
Does no-one remember the story of King Canute attempting to command the tides? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut_the_Great
…Henry of Huntingdon, the 12th-century chronicler, tells how Cnut set his throne by the sea shore and commanded the tide to halt and not wet his feet and robes. Yet “continuing to rise as usual [the tide] dashed over his feet and legs without respect to his royal person. Then the king leapt backwards, saying: ‘Let all men know how empty and worthless is the power of kings, for there is none worthy of the name, but He whom heaven, earth, and sea obey by eternal laws.’ He then hung his gold crown on a crucifix, and never wore it again “to the honour of God the almighty King”…
Daniel
Amusing how those people who are still promoting the global warming theory keep resorting to finger pointing and name calling.
Steven Rowlandson
I see the lunatic environmentalists never ever give up in their quest to regulate and tax us all to death and extinction through the use of manipulated statistics gathered by those they threaten or intimidate. When you have areas of europe buried in snow to the roof tops and much deeper snow in recent years in the pacific north west including alaska I would say there is a credibility gap between the environmentalists and the real world. It is a little warmer this year because we are near a peak in the sunspot cycle and it is a lower peak from the last cycle. Ultimately solar enery output and the Milankovitch cycles rules the climate and we are very close to the end of an interglacial cycle between big ice ages. It will not be excess heat that will pose a problem but the lack of it.
OlympiaLogger
@Rowlandson
I can sure vouch for the Pacific Northwest.
The year I was born my parents brought me home and into the house through a second story window.
The snowfall, on the ground, was 12′ or better and the snowdrifts were 20′ high.
It’s ALWAYS up and down with zero connection to what man does.
Fort Okanogan was built down on the Columbia river at the Okanogan mouth because THAT’s where the local Tribes were. The hunting was good down there and the fishing was great. They weren’t interested in waiting deep into the summer to move their camps into the Cascade mountains just to be snowed out again in a few weeks.
AND the sophomoric jack-ass GWH (Global Warming Hoaxters) still haven’t “explained” why, when earth has a warming moment… so does Mars.
” IT’S THE SUN, STUPID! “
(The only connection man has to weather are various governments running large and in some cases successful weather modification programs.)
OlympiaLogger
And to reiterate…
…when I worked at the USGS in Lakewood, Colorado, ALL the Russian scientists I had an occasion to meet and speak with, said the SAME thing, “The next big Earth event will be another ICE AGE.”
adampeart
If AGW is the cause for the sunny glorious summer day we’re having here in Seattle, then give me more please! Because, like 20, 50, 100 years ago it’s still primarily rainy and cold here. Anyone remember the big ‘environmental scare’ of the 90′s? HOLES IN THE OZONE. Based on that hype it should be 140F now and we should all be in holes starving with melanoma all over our bodies…No one ever brings that old gem up anymore…. Or the 70′s ‘coming of the new ice age’… Come on Max, aren’t you bored with this shit yet? Oh yeah, I forgot, you have a profit to make by propagating the AGW ‘quick! We’re all going to die!’ nonsense… kind of like your ‘crash JPM buy silver’ campaign. It’s conjecture on my part, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you had cashed out at $49 and left all the suckers who you convinced to buy at $47 holding the bag. You’ve already said once with glee that if gold ever hit $5k/oz. you’d sell(in exchange for that evil fiat ‘funny money’ you’re always blasting, and for good reason) and you’d never be heard from again. Once the manipulator of markets, now the manipulator of people. Well done. At least when I insult you I can do better than simply calling you an’ idiot’ or ‘asshole’ although the latter is quite applicable.
Also Rand Paul isn’t libertarian and has never once referred to himself as one. Don’t worry Max, he’s a statist just like you! He likes to initiate force through violence on the people too!
MAX KEISER: The man who would be king, if he were ever given the opportunity.
MrJones
Doesn’t the North Carolina’s state senate have better things to do, that are more pressing then stifling freedom of speech.
Any one who has seen Mexico City from a distance, or flown into LA on a hot windless day, or Tokyo or Beijing, and then walked the city streets and felt the burning in your eyes, and the harsh raspy feel deep down in the back of your throat from just breathing. To think that all this relentless pollution, that is non-stop, 24 x 7, day after day, year after year and still come to the conclusion that this has no effect on the planet or its atmosphere is living in lay lay land.
kdt
Is sea level rise accelerating?
This is a harder question to answer, because older records are incomplete. “It’s a hot debate,” says Simon Holgate of the National Oceanography Centre in Liverpool, UK. Some papers claim that the rise has accelerated over the 20th century, while others (often using the same data) say it hasn’t.
“The overall sense of the community is that there’s a small acceleration, but there is a lot of noise in the signal,” Holgate says
only pertinent section of the artical to the question it’s self.
and Rand is from kentucky NOT SC if i remember corectly. not shure what he has to do with this at all! execept smear him . you two should be staying above this crap no need to stoop to this level
Bankerssuck
Invariably it’s some city slicker environmentalist that lives in a shit hole of his own making and wants everyone else to change on his behalf. I respect the environment, but I don’t worship it.
What would you suggest in order to combat AGW? World government? Brought to us by the same criminals behind the IMF, the World Bank and the rest of the elitist organizations?
Whether AGW is occurring and creating changes which are, in the aggregate, detrimental to human and other life is debatable. But what needs to be addressed first are these two questions –
WHAT should we do about it? and –
WHO should do the doing?
Can you imagine a global elite deciding on energy, transportation and manufacturing policy for the whole world? Do you think that could possibly produce anything but a colossal disaster?
Blow_In
Love it, love it, love it. The mere mention of sea rise brings out the expert denialist pointing out that scientists no nothing about climate. They even use things that science has discovered to prove to their satisfaction that scientists are idiots. Milankovitch cycles, sun spot cycles, now that sounds learned. Makes a fellow wonder why those stupid scientists didn’t take that into account when they fed all that data into their super computers. Ya’ll better call NASA and give them a heads up.
Don’t go worrying about environmentalists stealing all your money though. The worldwide financial elites are doing a fine job of that while you are distracted. And it’s probably a good thing that they are. A species without a predator will consume itself into extinction.
Random Keiseresque yellow provacoteurism. Max seems to pull out headlines like this when Financial War Reporting news is slim.
Of course there’s a complete disconnect between Max’s headline and the linked article. Makes you wonder if Max is getting paid by NewScientist for linked traffic. The headline would make more sense if the linked article were about bank deregulation.
Perhaps Max is performing a sociological study to see how many readers automatically tie the headline to the article by assuming the topic of AGW. Having been exposed to this blog long enough, of course I do. [Insert link to Peter Gabriel's "Shock the Monkey" here*.] Had Max’s headline read “God is Genius” I might have assumed Max to imply that divine intervention is attempting to submerge Jekyll Island.
The article simply claims that a consensus among a group of researchers recognizes that sea level has been rising for at least 150 years, sans the 1940s, 2006, and 2011. I saw no mention of AGW, however, no less than Max and for no more than having been exposed to Max, I am trained to conceptualize AGW in association with all that is climate and weather related.
I fall short though, of being trained to associate AGW with any political philosophies, as in my world the statistics simply don’t suggest the match-up. Plenty of libertarians in my world concerned about AGW.
An odd thing for me coincidentally is that I just heard thrice in the last week Lew Rockwell say, “Rand Paul is not a libertarian.” and “Rand claims he is not a libertarian.” Perhaps such recent mental injection helps me transfor Max’s headline into…
“National Socialists like Webster Tarpley are idiots.”
or
“Bald people like Rockwell and Tarpley are idiots.”
Not that I think Rockwell or Tarpley are idiots, but I feel like an idiot or at least a trained lab monkey when such associations seem automatic to me upon my being exposed to minimal one link posts with idiotic headlines.
The sea is not rising, North Carolina is just sinking….
JonnyJames
Funny Max seems to love libertarians like Shiff and Denninger. Political labels like “libertarian” “liberal” “conservative” “left/right” “socialist” etc. etc. have been reduced to buzzwords largely empty of any specific meaning.
Describing one’s outlook on politics, economics, philosophy etc. cannot be reduced to a buzzword. It’s just part of the absurd and Orwellian discourse in ‘merka.
bud777
WHO GIVES A FUCK!!!!
DONT LIKE IT?!?!?!? MOVE THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE BEACH !!!! END OF STORY!!!!
Kevin Eshbach
@bud777
Umm, you do realize that those that are now experiencing Venice first hand will go crying to the government for a free handout as to which the government will happily oblige?
Rumcajs
Perhaps Rand Paul and Lew Rockwell are idiots but certainly not because of their views on the so called global warming.
james chen
Herro hope good day
and I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad , de beach on which I’m sitting ain’t got de sand it had…..lol…..
Max used to provide links to Rockwell and Tarpley. I wonder how long it will be before he refers to Hugo Salinas Price as idiot. At some point he’ll refer to all as such [even Sprott, although the day Max's balls are that big is still a long way off].
Max is comic by strict definition, and I’ll put up with his schtick as long as his general impact writ large remains positive. I’m not one to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Dan
**yawn**
I believe I’ll have another beer.
Carlos
@John Robb
No, I am certain that North Carolina is sinking. It has to do with Amerikas’ growing obesity problem. It’s not global warming, it’s global fattening.
@Carlos
Yep, that’s what I’m sayin’ too: it’s global fattening.
OlympiaLogger
@Dan,
__* doink *__
kdt
@blow in your “faith” in how scientests are uing your money is amusing to say the least!
they are not gods and super computers are not ALL knowing ! if you put garbage in you get garbage out that simple.
if you show me any pro agw numbers that exceed ‘margin for error” based measured difrences that efectivly=0 , i can state with out even looking ANY thing up! that they are chery picking data!! and the ONLY reason to complain about” deniers “chery picking THERE data in responce , is that they should not be dignifing the proceedings further by continuing the argument!!! it is obvious that this is not about the facts of the pyisics involved this is “religon” full of dogma and percicution for those condemed as “evil” by the “righteous” masses in there controled IGNORENCE!
t-rex
the son of the sun has come to reclaim once was for the sun’s son…. water , water everwhere but not a drop to drink. water , water everywhere……open desalinisation(sp) and then we shall all drink…..with all of jimmy chen’s many wives.
Karma Respect
Max what has happened? Getting old, getting tired, too well fed, making too much money or has hubris taken over, humility, respect?. Idiotic headline. Rand Paul is a politician so he is bought and paid for , so what if he is not a statesman like his father who inspires because he teaches and we are happy to be students and to learn. Global warming I have never heard him comment on and would not pay much attention even if he did. Lew Rockwell is a gentleman, principled, never raises his voice to make a point, teaches what he understands, is respectful.
Max, Max! Where are you? A silver bullet too many for lunch? The aliens have arrived? No Max, relax it will be all ok in the morning if not there is always the next day. I give up!
kdt
@john rob
An odd thing for me coincidentally is that I just heard thrice in the last week Lew Rockwell say, “Rand Paul is not a libertarian.” and “Rand claims he is not a libertarian.” Perhaps such recent mental injection helps me transfor Max’s headline into…
i like lew BUT he is the one who is not a libritarian in the first place, so he is no judge! he is a pure “ancrcist” and though Rand is still playing “coy” he stated from his own lips in one of those interviews last week that he had a small “libritarian” coilition going in the senate (he did NOT name names but he did make the claim) and if that is the case and HE sees him self as part of it , that spaeks to how he sees himself even if he did not directly self apply the lable. and that is close enuff for now.
If I invite a friend to smoke a cigar in my living room and close the windows and doors, will this tiny little cigar affect the atmosphere of my spacious living room??? Probably! The same is true of our planet’s atmosphere which is only 13 miles high and can be described as a kind of box. Although it may seem large it isn’t. What we put into our box affects our box.
The difference between a living room with cigar smoke and our atmosphere is that the living room can be aired by opening the windows and the door. Our planet’s ceiling is 13 miles high, but without windows or a door to open. In the past oceans and forests help regulate the atmosphere of our planet, but today their ability has been hindered, therefore we are stuck with what we put into our box.
Sir Halibut
and this coming from the “New Scientist”…
I dare say they will have yet another appendage to their theory of everything this week. What is it this week? String theory or noodle theory? Dark Matter or Inverse Matter? Vacuum Energy or Saturated Emptiness? The irresistable force or the immovable object?
[snip]“AND the sophomoric jack-ass GWH (Global Warming Hoaxters) still haven’t “explained” why, when earth has a warming moment… so does Mars. ” IT’S THE SUN, STUPID! “”[/snip]
Um.. yeah. What about that? I don’t know Rand Paul or the other guy, but I think people who selectively choose data to make their case, ignoring plain logic cause-and-effect, are pretty idiotic. All the planets are warming at once. That is not debatable. How do you figure it’s the people on earth’s fault???
Gary
Who cares if the sea level rises in North Carolina? Or anywhere else for that matter?
SilverPorno
Good day Chen-Meister.
How’s the noodle shop and the wives?
Long time no update. Brrrrrrrrr.
adampeart
@ Mary Genoud
Your ‘smoking cigars’ analogy doesn’t work. First of all, consider that there are many variables at work here. For instance, since the beginning of time naturally occurring forest fires burned and burned and burned until it burned itself out. In the modern era we ‘meddle with nature’ by putting these fires out before they reach full affect. Therefore what is the compensation rate between the pollution we help stop by putting out forest fires in relation to the pollution we create by burning fossil fuels? I’m sure it’s just a small percentage but that’s just one of many variables. In my 36 years the air has never been cleaner. Drive away from the cities(which in and of themselves are far more clean than ever before when you consider population density) and you will see the trees and the breeze doing a great job at what they do- clean the air. Relax. With technology comes increased efficiency; with increased efficiency comes a reduction in waste byproduct(pollution). We can either step out of the way and let the free market work on REALISTIC clean energy technologies(windmills? give me a break- they’re special interest 8 track player technologies) or we can go back to living in mud huts.
blindman
http://milesmathis.com/
THE GREATEST STANDING ERRORS IN PHYSICS AND MATHEMATICS
by Miles Mathis
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kdt
@Mary Genoud and what pray tell is the out side of that “box’ made of?
your anology is flawed and Badly.
“only 13 miles high” Only? “hubris!” when is the last time you walked 13 miles? it is a LONG ways.
In the past oceans and forests help regulate the atmosphere of our planet, but today their ability has been hindered
ill buy that deforestaion is an on going issue BUT the “oceans” are known to do most of the “work” and the ocean’s ability to sequester CO2 is MAINLY in its “algy”(the smaller the plant the more efficient the photosynthesis “econimys of scale” in reverse , or craming more in to a smaller space) and so far i have heard there are NO claims that “algy” do any thing but get MORE plentiful as the oceans warm seasonaly or like in the case of “el nino” type curents from long cycle changes in ocean curents changing the flow of heat to the poles
the isues with deforestation go all the way back to easter island and are population based and OUR curent population over reach is enabled entirly by OIL being used to grow food stop DOING that and slef limiting factors will shrink us back down to a proper size for our “britches” in short order and “peak oil ” is doing just that right now and we are ALL starting to feel it! lean times are a commin’ and then it will only get leaner
james chen
@SilverPorno
herro hope good day
jimmy, dhat me, had to change username to james from jimmy….wery bibrical i know….
as for updates, just busy. wives have to much of jimmy attention. too much waa jimmy give me money, waa jimmy go make de noodle…. you understand…. arr yap no crose de frap.
Good to see some level heads are in the majority here, that is not cool aid drinkers swallowing AGW. It is getting tough for you Stacey, everytime you mention AGW it is always seasoned with some slander to the opposition and your fan base sticks it to you. You have laid off ths subject for awhile but I know your just chomping at the bit stir it up. Go for it, I for one love the comments.
your AGW denier fan
Sirius Black
If we all pay our carbon taxes to Al Gore, will he bail out Greece and Spain for us?
johnseattle
Global warming is cover story for geoengineering (chemtrails)and implementing carbon tax!
snoop diddy
nice to see you again James Chen, I thought Max had you disposed of.
caz
Max. Stick to economics. You’re not a scientist and you have no idea how much politics and science have become a fascist enterprise just like corporations and politics have become a fascist enterprise. Truth in science is a rarity these days.
MrJones
@ Mary Genoud. I’m sure you have heard the old saying. “Hell as no fury like a woman scorned.” Well not anymore. It ‘s now “hell as no fury like a AGW denier scorned.” Even the laws of physics is lost on these deniers.
@adampeart. About that hole in the ozone. Have you bought a aerosol can of Right Guard lately, or in the pass 15 years? Or have you recharged the A/C in your car? If so what did you use.. freon 113?
Al Kyder
@ kdt
A process originally developed for algae harvesting shows promise as a solution for treating flowback water from hydraulic fracturing operations.
Los Angeles-based technology company OriginOil has developed products to enable the industrial scale harvesting of algae into renewable crude oil that is compatible with the current worldwide petroleum refining infrastructure.
In recent third party testing, OriginOil’s Solids Out of Solution System–powered by its Single Step Extraction technology, a solids separation and dewatering process–removed 98 percent of hydrocarbons from a sample of West Texas oil well flowback water in the first stage alone. The flowback water was tested in the lab – OriginOil is now getting out into the field to run commercial programs.
“We have only tested our process on frac flowback from oil wells and have yet to test on frac fluid from gas wells,” said OriginOil CEO Riggs Eckelberry, but said he believes OriginOil’s technology can help with removing any organic material.
The Single Step Extraction tubes use electrical pulses that neutralize the electric charge of the suspended or colloidal charges in the water, allowing them to come out of the solution.
Eckelberry compares the extraction process to making a pot of coffee, but then wanting to pull the coffee grounds back out.
It’s chemical-free, very low-energy, and can be operated in a continuous flow mode, Eckelberry said.
“Now what you have coming out of this is a sludge or concentrate that is still 80-90 percent water. But now it’s economical to use centrifuges and filters to remove the rest of the water, if desired,” he added,
The end product, for algae production, is a biocrude that is functionally identical to ***light sweet crude oil***.
“Algae is an aquatic species, so great quantities of water are used,” said Eckelberry. “However, this water can be waste water, or brackish, or ocean water. So there isn’t a comparison with frack water, which must be fresh.”
Researchers at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) found that 21 billion gallons of algal oil, equal to the 2022 advanced biofuels goal set out by the Energy Independence and Security Act, can be produced with American-grown algae. That adds up to 17 percent of the oil the nation imports for transportation. This could happen by 2022, helping the United States become more energy-independent, said Eckelberry.
Algae converts at a very high efficiency into biocrude, as it has lots of caloric value and happens to have the same molecular structure as petroleum, said Eckelberry. The Obama administration supports the use of algae as a biofuel, and the U.S. Navy has pushed for biofuels use, including algae. However, opposition exists in U.S. Congress, so the support the U.S. government can bring is probably limited at present, said Eckelberry.
“Algae is right now in better shape in Australia than in the U.S. because resource producers (miners etc.) can take a direct credit against their new carbon tax by investing in algae and other carbon capture technologies,” said Eckelberry. “This is driving a boom of adoption in ‘Algstralia.’”
The aviation industry supports greater use of biofuels in general, said Eckelberry. Algae fits into a blended biofuels program by brining its high caloric value and petroleum profile.
With water usage growing, so is the market for treatment solutions of produced water. According to Lux Research, the hydraulic fracturing water market is expected to increase to $9 billion in 2020 as hydraulic fracturing activity grows outside the United States.
PACE estimated that the cost to remediate frac water to class B purity, or groundwater grade, is approximately 21 cents to 26 cents a gallon, and for disposal in deep wells, 11 cents per gallon. OriginOil’s process, in conjunction with the PACE system, is estimated to cost about 7 cents per gallon.
Blow_In
@kdt
I’m not commenting on whether AGW is a fact or not. I’m commenting on the quality of denialist arguments. When it comes to debating skills, the scientists are winning hands down.
And your equating the opinion that AGW is a fact to it being a religion is silly. That argument could just as easily be used against those with an opposite opinion.
Do I know if AGW is a fact or not? Hell no, but I do know that We are not rational animals, we are rationalizing animals, and we are for the most part, incredibly wasteful and destructive unless some outside force reigns us in. Perhaps our psychopathic elites that are calling the shots are that force.
Blow_In
@Al Kyder
I always find your posts interesting. That doesn’t mean that can integrate the information into my life, or totally understand what you are saying, but your comments are well written and have a ring of truthiness to them.
Thanks for posting.
trooper dave
@Kim All the planets are warming at once. That is not debatable. How do you figure it’s the people on earth’s fault???
Ah, the solar system; sun spot system; ocean system………….
ALL the systems, above all the human, mankind system is STUCK inside the MONEY SYSTEM. All the arguments about and around the other system all come back to a “extend and pretend” sticking plaster to continue the illusion that is the monetary system and that wealth divide that the controllers of the system love.
Name calling and back biting over the presentation of problems in the other systems will not open your eyes to the ILLUSION that is money and the control it has on your lives, thoughts, beliefs and actions……. because it has pretty bits of paper that you can bundle together, fold and put in your pocket.
Change the zombie inducing money system and the human psyche can develop again instead of continuously consuming it’s own tail.
Billy-Bob Garcia
Hey RABBLE ROUSER,
If you think either of them are idiots, please invite them to your show and debate them… oh yeah, you only have people on your show that kiss up to you.
kdt
@Al kyder wow! tini plants work better for biofuel too! makes sence once it is right there in front of your nose! one wonders how much stuff like this we have missed .
kdt
@blow in
the “deniers” are also scientists usuly from fields steped on by agw’s eternal need to add “epicycles” to cover past WRONG predictions, combined with the extreem “compartmentalization” in the curent ‘scientific’ comunity this leads to pro agw “scientists’ wandering around MISS using reserch they dont understand fully to improperly suport there own flawed hypothisis, then when they publish some one from THAT field says somthing like “ummm hay guys it dont work like that” at wich point they are discredited for not being in the AGW field or they have worked for an oil company or in one case for being a “mexican”(i could not find ANY lack of credibility and the header on that story ramed MEXICAN in your face every time you looked for his reasearch) and BTW he disproves the idea that gasses have a”green house efect” AT ALL and not just “CO2″ he “confirmed” that ALL GASSES in fact conform to ALL the laws of thermodynamics with NO magic in CO2 that allows it to absorb and retain heat that the PHISICS involved state it CAN’T and even if it could! it could not “re emit” that energy in the way AGW NEEDS it to and even then when gasses heat up they “convect” and convection causes the refrigerent gasses in the atmosphere to expand and COOL stealing the “heat” that caused the air to rise in the first place(this prosess MUST be left out of ALL agw models or they DON”T work
religon is “faith” based and the use of logic to explore it is “herecy” as the faith is considered part of the program
science is a methodical cross check of your facts using logic that can be repeted by out side parties to confirm that NOTHING is taken on “faith” and passed on as “fact”
the definitions are mutaly exclusive and NOT interchangable. historicly anyone constantly making WRONG predictions and consistantly covering them up using “epicycles” is practicing a religon not engaging in science. either that or a con take your pick but it ain’t “science”. i WAS giving the un and the ipcc the benifit of the doubt on intentions but that is me having “faith”
kdt
@MrJones ever notice that as 3M’s patents run out,”that” refrigrent gass sudenly starts to burn holes in the ozone layer? odd isn’t it? and there new formula will never be an issue till its patent is up! it is AMASING how that works out for them EVERY TIME THEY DO IT. and even more amasing that gasses that are known to “sink” and puddle in our atmosphere can all on there own get ALL the way up to the ozone layer in spite of being HEAVIER that AIR!
freeman dyson is a lieing P.O.S. he reversed “cause” and “efect” in his reserch and has lied about it ever sence
ozone or O1 has an electrical ‘charge’ that seperated it from its natural form O2 where dose this charge come from? in the case of the “ozone layer” it is the high energy radiation coming in from the sun striking the O2 and geting absorbed taking on a charge and seperating………. so can you see his “mistake” right in that prosess! not only was the harmful raditation absorbed by the O2 the O1 has NO way to take on a charge as it is already charged and there for can NOT absorb ANYTHING the “hole” in the ozone layer is a LACK of incoming energy NOT the lack of a fundamentaly unstable form of oxigen.
kdt
General Rasta, SLA
Nigel Farage just had a MELTDOWN on FoKKKs business “news” …. blaming everything on the communist BOOGEYMAN and sucking up to the Americans by DENYING that the reason for the Eurozone’s problems is US TBTF banks’ toxic derivatives
where to start?………..
where is the ACCUAL race conection i do not see it?
scocilisim has killed to date nearly 100,000,000.00 people world wide !
Lenin: “It would not matter if three quarters of the world
were to perish, as long as the remaining quarter was communist.”
stalin: “A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.”
from the cubans , Castro and Che executed about 14,000:
(according to Che, when asked why, he answered because of “revolutionary morals”,
not because they violated any “bourgeois law”
mao didn’t talk about it he just followed the examples set by the ussr
sounds WORSE than any BOOGEYMAN man stories from childhood to me!
Al Kyder
@ Blow-In
Thanks for that. I try to focus on other currencies. In this case oil and gas and particularly gas (Blue Gold) is in focus. The price of gas is at historical lows. We must be carful here or we will end up with an economy based entirely on gas, because it is cheap right now.Once where hooked watch the price go through the roof.
Like they say Britannia Rules the wave, and all those LNG ships will have contracts at around 10$ tcf for the gas and when that rises to 20 / 30. and 50 $ tcf The price of gas at the well head has fallen dramatically over he last 3 months, down to just 2.25$ and yet the residential price of gas continues to rise. http://205.254.135.7/dnav/ng/ng_pri_sum_dcu_nus_m.htm
p.s. I like your posts too. I always enjoy reading them.
trooper dave
@Kdt ozone or O1 has an electrical ‘charge’ that seperated it from its natural form O2 where dose this charge come from? in the case of the “ozone layer” it is the high energy radiation coming in from the sun striking the O2 and geting absorbed taking on a charge and seperating………. so can you see his “mistake” right in that prosess! not only was the harmful raditation absorbed by the O2 the O1 has NO way to take on a charge as it is already charged and there for can NOT absorb ANYTHING the “hole” in the ozone layer is a LACK of incoming energy NOT the lack of a fundamentaly unstable form of oxigen.
Didn’t understand that? Ozone is O3. And ozone is a RESULT of the protection NOT the protection.
@adampeart. Cigar smoke does not alter a living room’s environment; it just stinks-up the room. The point was airing the room could remove pollution, however our planet does not have this option, since its atmosphere is closed, windowless and doorless. Natural means for ‘airing’ our atmosphere, forests and oceans have been exhausted. By the way, currently there is an enormous forest fire inland into the Amazon; areas impacted by drought, protective moisture levels impaired, thus ancient forests up in smoke. They will burn until the fire reaches areas where the moisture levels are still intact. This will affect the atmosphere of our box.
@kdt, in 1950 our global population was 2 billion, today we are 7 billion. To feed this growing population over the past 60 years we destroyed many forests. As for the oceans, they once sequestered 35% of CO2, but not anymore no matter how much plankton they have. The oceans have become acidic, which is really sad for fish and creatures with shells. We are end-resourced and it is cataclysmic. It didn’t have to be this way, people could have been informed and chosen lifestyles that were more sustainable, it could have been through democratic process with mother nature having a vote, but that is not what happened. We live kdt in a box and there is no escape hatch.
steveosilver
@ AK, do you have any information on the sulfur content of that bio oil?
Since that is the key ingredient in fuels, and the major pollutant, i would be interested to know how if fares against E85 based ethanols.
I tried to explain that gasoline and diesel do not ignite in engines, I know its sounds very odd.
What it does is change the frequency of the air in the cylinders, which produces energy though expansion, and implosion. Hot in one millisecond and ice cold in another.
The waste of that so called fuel goes out the tail pipe.
If you think i am just crazy, ask yourself this, if those gases and sometimes fuel that come out of the tail pipe are still what they are, why can you not light them or make them explode?
So science is corrupted and has been put into place to be the authority that you rely on to quote your understanding of nature and all things to be understood.
You can continue to go though life believing what they tell you is real, or do your own experiments and find out that you have been lied to all along.
love and gratitude
Sovereign Silver
Rand Paul is an ass. I like Lew Rockwell and I like many of the libertarian ideals but the label is definitely co-opted. I mean Glen Beck? Come on. Calling himself that should make any self respecting classical rethink the title. Noam Chomsky and Ron Paul both call themselves libertarians. It’s a word that’s been watered down. Don’t get caught up with labels, get caught up in ideas.
Sovereign Silver
@ JonnyJanes I should have read the comments before I posted. Well said. My thoughts exactly.
Catalyst
Not to worry, Max & Stacey the U.S. gov’t has been secretly building
arks that will take the wealthy and super smart eugenics demigods to safe harbor.
I know you are one of those. Here is irrefutable evidence that it is true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UylcJlVb5-E
Sovereign Silver
And as for climate change, we have raised co2 ppm well above what it’s been for the past 600 000 years. There has to be some effect. But to deny the sun’s role in the issue is beyond naive. How do you explain warming periods of years gone by? How do you explain global warming on other planets in our solar system? Environmentalists, OWS and the TEA party have to come together and realize who the real problem is here.
Daniel
He’s not a Keiser, he’s a very silly boy.
Catalyst
Here is a lifeboat for those who want to survive the sea level rising. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/surviving-apocalypse-lifeboat
Is cheap I just bought one myself. Since I can’t afford to get on the arks that the
NWO has built in China.
Al Kyder
@ Steveosilver
Its should be almost sulphur free, it would depend on the source of the oil too, its not a synthetic bio-fuel, the algae soaks up what type of oil is there.
As for the engines running on nothing, of sorts, you would still need fuel to start them, and how would you develop horse power without fuel? If what you say is true, then it is not appropriate for the type of cars and uses they are subject too on todays roads.
karl
people who are only knowledgeable about finance who profess to know more about climate than meteorologists and more about climate change than geophyscists should either shut up or be removed from the gene pool.
Max and stacey and good when they talk economics but when they drone on about AGW they are complete morons
want to argue with me?
I have a degree in geology and work as a geophysist and i can assure you the climate has fuck all to do with human induced C02
we are enetering a new ice age
wake up
temperatures always go up prior to their collapse
look up milankovitch cycles to educate yourselves
IS the environemnt being fucked?
absolutely but it has nothing to do with C02 a gas plants need to live
please talk about a subject you know about ie finance and leave climate to others
you really do not know what the fuck you are talking about so STFU , M and S
karl
I also notice max is a whiner really
drones on but offers no solutions
what exactly is your agenda?
you hate market manipulation but then also hate libertarians who wnat a free market?
so what exactky do you want?
as for oil use
If you want a solution try promoting HEMP
HEMP couild be grown by anyone and has the greatest biomass on earth, requires no fertilizer and could provide enough biofuel for everyone plus make a non toxic plastic.,
paper, food and clothing
If you wmnat to talk about what damage oil does, please state FACTS
FACTS are its not really the burning of it that causes the most harm its the synthtic fertilizers we get from it that washes into to our oceans causing eutrophication
you should be promoting organic farming and hemp as a solution not droning on about
myths such as C02
if you also want to know whats ruining the planet its not C02 but CONCRETE
bu6t5 I gues you think rampant construction on countryside is ok as long as the concrete
condos do not release C02
ytou really both let yourselves down big time with crap talk like this
I have to applaud Max’s willingness to rock the boat. I consider myself to have a strong libertarian streak yet the fact-free fantasy world that some choose to live in is mind numbing.
@ kdt — If you take all the theories on this thread and add them up you come up with PARALYSIS. You’ve got the AGW theory the coming ice age theory, the the Al Gore and environmentalist want to steal all my money theory, the hydrocarbons don’t burn [oxidize] in an ICE engine theory, the entire solar system is heating up theory, the Milankovitch cycle theory. the hemp will save us theory and a few that I haven’t checked out yet. I can not prove or disprove any of these from my home at the edge of the bog.
I like the expanding earth theory meself. Not that I particularly believe it, but I like it.
And that list doesn’t include all of the political conspiracy theories and counter theories and counter counter double reverse theories.
It’s kinda like just pick a theory then gather all the quotes you can find to add weight to your conditioned bias. As Jack say’s. “It is just a bunch of people trying to type themselves smart.”
That’s all I have time for. I have to check out some interesting conspiracy theory I ran into on another site.
Be Well
Blow_In
@ Al Kyder
It’s cappuccino. I could be content living in a clay cottage with a turf fire eating potatoes cabbage and bacon, but don’t take away my caffeine and nicotine please.
Oh and enough cash to go up to the PUB for 3 or 4 pints of the black stuff now and then would be nice as well. [just for the vitamins]
Cheers
daddy warbucks
Leading Global Warming Advocate Recants! … ‘Models Fail Dramatically …’
Thursday, June 21, 2012 – by Staff Report
Globalists Switching Gears: Royal Society Lecturer Says CO2 Not Affecting Earth’s Temperature … Fritz Vahrenholt, a German green energy investor, says he has reassessed his position on man-made climate change.
What is most disturbing is why are Max and Stacey such ferocious AGW defenders?
steveosilver
@AK thanks for asking a follow up question.
The sulfur content is the key to pollution for all fuels, in this case it is what is killing the planet, ie the brimstone, lol.
Plant based ethanols are the ticket to the future, it was known as far back as 1890.
Yes you are correct fueless operation of a internal combustion engines is possible, but it is so hard for us to repeat it consistently it would not be for the masses.
What has been proved and patented is a process called the Hull effect technology.
It uses output from the alternator to energize the oil by inserting a conductor into the oil passage.
This energizing of the oil conditions the engine to become almost frictionless in operation.
So the frictional losses that all engines have is now eliminated, only the external devices, alternator, power steering, ac, ect are now considered.
The engine becomes a harmonic device of sorts, then the water in the cooling system becomes energized allowing for a more efficient heat transfer.
One of the requirements is that it must be a non fuel injection motor, I know that is getting tougher these days as all engines are being fuel injected.
All the selling points of fuel efficiency that were sold with injections system never have come to pass.
Why because they write the software that keeps the engines using more fuel than is required, but anyway back to the examples.
So what begins to happen to this energized motor is the fuel begins to what i will refer to as Hydro fracking. The oxygen and water molecules begin to expand and produces gasious energy, is the only way i can explain it.
Some of this understanding can come from water injection system that have been introduced in history only to have failed due to the introduction process of the water.
Because as the engine conditions itself to these new requirements, the engines need less and less fuel per se, or a lean condition.
This lean condition in a fuel injection system would call for the computer to add fuel, because the software is not designed to these conditions, hence its stupid.
So then what happens in this lean condition, you would expect the engine would run hotter, but it does not, it runs cooler, and it produces more power, and then you must lower the rpms to detune the engine.
So what ends up happing is that you have an engine that runs at low rpms and produces massive amounts of torque, without almost any heat.
The proof of concept engines that this was displayed on for the issuing of the patents was on a tractor, big rig, and a car, of course they were all originally gasoline versions, not diesel models.
The tractor engine, a 1959 tiger motor was run for 45 minutes and the engine under full load on the dyno produced 2x the torque as it was displayed under a minor tune.
Participants could touch the exhaust manifolds during the test only to find that it was only slightly above 80 degrees F.
So going back to your question, although gasoline produces very good results, E85 ethanol produced the best results.
So once where you would need gallon per hour you now only need ounces per hour under full continuous loads.
So yes they are not fueless, they need fuel vapor to start and ounces per day in most circumstances.
I know this seems very complicated to put and run on a car and most will not do it.
Since the PTB have locked down this technology now and most likely it will not be in productions ever, because it reverses everything that a mechanic thought he knew how engines run and operate.
We the people as we can understand this technology must spread the word on how to replicate it.
The farmer is the one person to help first.
If his energy consumption overhead can almost be eliminated then he can become truly independent from the cabal.
He can be off the grid, using a genset utilizing the HE on it, almost eliminates all electrical costs to power equipment on the farm.
So with this tech everyone can become a farmer of sorts, we do not need vast acres of land, as hydroponics and indoor farming are now possible on the cheap.
Of course we have to consider the costs of equipment, lighting, pumps, ect.
But as hemp growers know the benefits of indoor, lol.
Frictionless motors that do not produce heat above 90F even during days of 100F is unheard of, and eliminate wear and tear to the extent that they last decades, especially since they run at such low rpms also.
Another benefit is that the water that was to be used for cooling the engine, can now be used as a hot water heater as a by product, it can be pumped into exchangers during the winter to heat the home, and the same during the summer to cool the home.
But back to the cars, and the key to the future is being sold on electric vehicles, where is that power going to come from, because i do not see solar panels on the vehicles, just a plug.
If everyone had a battery vehicle then the grid would have enormous capacity, and to think about all that lithium that could be mined out of Afghanistan, lol.
If anyone has heard me, and can see all the implications on the HE and how many technologies would be rendered moot, you see the mountain that must be moved.
This technology would be able to replace so many industries, they can not let it be known.
I know that by now you may have stopped reading as it is too much to consider or its all bs, i get that.
If you invest in gold and silver, why not invest in a genset that has the HE on it.
If the shit hits the fan, how will you produce energy, i hope you at least have a couple of panels and a bank of deep cycle batteries, and an inverter.
One of the benefits of the HE on an internal combustion engine is that air that comes out is cleaner than what went in, I know that is the one that will kill this for any of you that may have gotten this far and think that i am just crazy.
Now you know what we are up against now, a device that produces almost free energy, from a internal combustion engine that have been built for 60 years, ie 1962 was the introduction of the alternator on most produced cars.
That this almost fueless engine could be coupled to a gen head, its by products produce hot water, and clean the air we breath.
It could be kept in the home because it does not produce carbon monoxide.
If for nothing else just take this information as a hedge for the future what have you got to lose, i am not selling anything, i give you this information for free to do as you want with it.
But you have been told how easy it is, compared to cold fusion, or any other device that you might be able to buy.
Google the Hull Effect Technology.
I hope you find love and gratitude
karl
daddy warbucks
my feeling exactly…
it makes me question Max and Stacey big time
controlled opposition comes to mind
we all know C02 carbon credits are another derivative scam
strange that they declare war against derivatives and financial terrorism but when it come sto carbon derivatives , potentially the biggest scam of them all they support it.
Perhaps we will find out they are both backdoor bilderbergers all along
I wondered how they get away with some of what they say
now we know why
” as long as the world is round, ain’t nothin’ on the level “. . anon?/unknown
…and so, where’s the beef? Yes, Rand P is your typical flipfloping political scumbag, however Lew Rockwell never seems to say anything idiotic and IMHO is factual & sensible. I have lost a lot of respect for MK from this one headline, unless it can be clarified.
So glad my parents sold their property on the Outer Banks.
@Max, Stacy
Nigel Farage just had a MELTDOWN on FoKKKs business “news” …. blaming everything on the communist BOOGEYMAN and sucking up to the Americans by DENYING that the reason for the Eurozone’s problems is US TBTF banks’ toxic derivatives.
what a WEASEL
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/farage-barroso-hes-deluded-communist-idiot
The only thing that we know for certain is ‘anthropogenic’, is the unending stream of disinformation emanating from self-proclaimed experts, about climate “statistics”
they actually know little or nothing about. The “evidence” presented here is a good
case in point. My guess is the reference to Libertarians is just more routine
unthinking, and wholly irrelevant, signature MK bombast.
stirring the monkeys
Does no-one remember the story of King Canute attempting to command the tides? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut_the_Great
…Henry of Huntingdon, the 12th-century chronicler, tells how Cnut set his throne by the sea shore and commanded the tide to halt and not wet his feet and robes. Yet “continuing to rise as usual [the tide] dashed over his feet and legs without respect to his royal person. Then the king leapt backwards, saying: ‘Let all men know how empty and worthless is the power of kings, for there is none worthy of the name, but He whom heaven, earth, and sea obey by eternal laws.’ He then hung his gold crown on a crucifix, and never wore it again “to the honour of God the almighty King”…
Amusing how those people who are still promoting the global warming theory keep resorting to finger pointing and name calling.
I see the lunatic environmentalists never ever give up in their quest to regulate and tax us all to death and extinction through the use of manipulated statistics gathered by those they threaten or intimidate. When you have areas of europe buried in snow to the roof tops and much deeper snow in recent years in the pacific north west including alaska I would say there is a credibility gap between the environmentalists and the real world. It is a little warmer this year because we are near a peak in the sunspot cycle and it is a lower peak from the last cycle. Ultimately solar enery output and the Milankovitch cycles rules the climate and we are very close to the end of an interglacial cycle between big ice ages. It will not be excess heat that will pose a problem but the lack of it.
@Rowlandson
I can sure vouch for the Pacific Northwest.
The year I was born my parents brought me home and into the house through a second story window.
The snowfall, on the ground, was 12′ or better and the snowdrifts were 20′ high.
It’s ALWAYS up and down with zero connection to what man does.
Fort Okanogan was built down on the Columbia river at the Okanogan mouth because THAT’s where the local Tribes were. The hunting was good down there and the fishing was great. They weren’t interested in waiting deep into the summer to move their camps into the Cascade mountains just to be snowed out again in a few weeks.
AND the sophomoric jack-ass GWH (Global Warming Hoaxters) still haven’t “explained” why, when earth has a warming moment… so does Mars.
” IT’S THE SUN, STUPID! “
(The only connection man has to weather are various governments running large and in some cases successful weather modification programs.)
And to reiterate…
…when I worked at the USGS in Lakewood, Colorado, ALL the Russian scientists I had an occasion to meet and speak with, said the SAME thing, “The next big Earth event will be another ICE AGE.”
If AGW is the cause for the sunny glorious summer day we’re having here in Seattle, then give me more please! Because, like 20, 50, 100 years ago it’s still primarily rainy and cold here. Anyone remember the big ‘environmental scare’ of the 90′s? HOLES IN THE OZONE. Based on that hype it should be 140F now and we should all be in holes starving with melanoma all over our bodies…No one ever brings that old gem up anymore…. Or the 70′s ‘coming of the new ice age’… Come on Max, aren’t you bored with this shit yet? Oh yeah, I forgot, you have a profit to make by propagating the AGW ‘quick! We’re all going to die!’ nonsense… kind of like your ‘crash JPM buy silver’ campaign. It’s conjecture on my part, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you had cashed out at $49 and left all the suckers who you convinced to buy at $47 holding the bag. You’ve already said once with glee that if gold ever hit $5k/oz. you’d sell(in exchange for that evil fiat ‘funny money’ you’re always blasting, and for good reason) and you’d never be heard from again. Once the manipulator of markets, now the manipulator of people. Well done. At least when I insult you I can do better than simply calling you an’ idiot’ or ‘asshole’ although the latter is quite applicable.
Also Rand Paul isn’t libertarian and has never once referred to himself as one. Don’t worry Max, he’s a statist just like you! He likes to initiate force through violence on the people too!
MAX KEISER: The man who would be king, if he were ever given the opportunity.
Doesn’t the North Carolina’s state senate have better things to do, that are more pressing then stifling freedom of speech.
Any one who has seen Mexico City from a distance, or flown into LA on a hot windless day, or Tokyo or Beijing, and then walked the city streets and felt the burning in your eyes, and the harsh raspy feel deep down in the back of your throat from just breathing. To think that all this relentless pollution, that is non-stop, 24 x 7, day after day, year after year and still come to the conclusion that this has no effect on the planet or its atmosphere is living in lay lay land.
Is sea level rise accelerating?
This is a harder question to answer, because older records are incomplete. “It’s a hot debate,” says Simon Holgate of the National Oceanography Centre in Liverpool, UK. Some papers claim that the rise has accelerated over the 20th century, while others (often using the same data) say it hasn’t.
“The overall sense of the community is that there’s a small acceleration, but there is a lot of noise in the signal,” Holgate says
only pertinent section of the artical to the question it’s self.
and Rand is from kentucky NOT SC if i remember corectly. not shure what he has to do with this at all! execept smear him . you two should be staying above this crap no need to stoop to this level
Invariably it’s some city slicker environmentalist that lives in a shit hole of his own making and wants everyone else to change on his behalf. I respect the environment, but I don’t worship it.
Max,
What would you suggest in order to combat AGW? World government? Brought to us by the same criminals behind the IMF, the World Bank and the rest of the elitist organizations?
Whether AGW is occurring and creating changes which are, in the aggregate, detrimental to human and other life is debatable. But what needs to be addressed first are these two questions –
WHAT should we do about it? and –
WHO should do the doing?
Can you imagine a global elite deciding on energy, transportation and manufacturing policy for the whole world? Do you think that could possibly produce anything but a colossal disaster?
Love it, love it, love it. The mere mention of sea rise brings out the expert denialist pointing out that scientists no nothing about climate. They even use things that science has discovered to prove to their satisfaction that scientists are idiots. Milankovitch cycles, sun spot cycles, now that sounds learned. Makes a fellow wonder why those stupid scientists didn’t take that into account when they fed all that data into their super computers. Ya’ll better call NASA and give them a heads up.
Don’t go worrying about environmentalists stealing all your money though. The worldwide financial elites are doing a fine job of that while you are distracted. And it’s probably a good thing that they are. A species without a predator will consume itself into extinction.
Keep stirring the pot Max.
Random Keiseresque yellow provacoteurism. Max seems to pull out headlines like this when Financial War Reporting news is slim.
Of course there’s a complete disconnect between Max’s headline and the linked article. Makes you wonder if Max is getting paid by NewScientist for linked traffic. The headline would make more sense if the linked article were about bank deregulation.
Perhaps Max is performing a sociological study to see how many readers automatically tie the headline to the article by assuming the topic of AGW. Having been exposed to this blog long enough, of course I do. [Insert link to Peter Gabriel's "Shock the Monkey" here*.] Had Max’s headline read “God is Genius” I might have assumed Max to imply that divine intervention is attempting to submerge Jekyll Island.
The article simply claims that a consensus among a group of researchers recognizes that sea level has been rising for at least 150 years, sans the 1940s, 2006, and 2011. I saw no mention of AGW, however, no less than Max and for no more than having been exposed to Max, I am trained to conceptualize AGW in association with all that is climate and weather related.
I fall short though, of being trained to associate AGW with any political philosophies, as in my world the statistics simply don’t suggest the match-up. Plenty of libertarians in my world concerned about AGW.
An odd thing for me coincidentally is that I just heard thrice in the last week Lew Rockwell say, “Rand Paul is not a libertarian.” and “Rand claims he is not a libertarian.” Perhaps such recent mental injection helps me transfor Max’s headline into…
“National Socialists like Webster Tarpley are idiots.”
or
“Bald people like Rockwell and Tarpley are idiots.”
Not that I think Rockwell or Tarpley are idiots, but I feel like an idiot or at least a trained lab monkey when such associations seem automatic to me upon my being exposed to minimal one link posts with idiotic headlines.
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo9riZYUpTw
The sea is not rising, North Carolina is just sinking….
Funny Max seems to love libertarians like Shiff and Denninger. Political labels like “libertarian” “liberal” “conservative” “left/right” “socialist” etc. etc. have been reduced to buzzwords largely empty of any specific meaning.
Describing one’s outlook on politics, economics, philosophy etc. cannot be reduced to a buzzword. It’s just part of the absurd and Orwellian discourse in ‘merka.
WHO GIVES A FUCK!!!!
DONT LIKE IT?!?!?!? MOVE THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE BEACH !!!! END OF STORY!!!!
@bud777
Umm, you do realize that those that are now experiencing Venice first hand will go crying to the government for a free handout as to which the government will happily oblige?
Perhaps Rand Paul and Lew Rockwell are idiots but certainly not because of their views on the so called global warming.
Herro hope good day
and I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad , de beach on which I’m sitting ain’t got de sand it had…..lol…..
Jimmmmmmyyyyyy
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Still pushing conspiracy theories Max?
Must be a cultural thing.
Shame this particular CT distracts from those forces destroying the planet.
Science was never meant to be a narrative Max!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDlduSII5RQ
“The sea is not rising, North Carolina is just sinking….” -Carlos
Good point, or how about they are both rising but the sea is on average rising at a higher rate than NC…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
…[Max isn't the only provocateur here!]
Max used to provide links to Rockwell and Tarpley. I wonder how long it will be before he refers to Hugo Salinas Price as idiot. At some point he’ll refer to all as such [even Sprott, although the day Max's balls are that big is still a long way off].
Max is comic by strict definition, and I’ll put up with his schtick as long as his general impact writ large remains positive. I’m not one to throw the baby out with the bath water.
**yawn**
I believe I’ll have another beer.
@John Robb
No, I am certain that North Carolina is sinking. It has to do with Amerikas’ growing obesity problem. It’s not global warming, it’s global fattening.
@Carlos
Yep, that’s what I’m sayin’ too: it’s global fattening.
@Dan,
__* doink *__
@blow in your “faith” in how scientests are uing your money is amusing to say the least!
they are not gods and super computers are not ALL knowing ! if you put garbage in you get garbage out that simple.
if you show me any pro agw numbers that exceed ‘margin for error” based measured difrences that efectivly=0 , i can state with out even looking ANY thing up! that they are chery picking data!! and the ONLY reason to complain about” deniers “chery picking THERE data in responce , is that they should not be dignifing the proceedings further by continuing the argument!!! it is obvious that this is not about the facts of the pyisics involved this is “religon” full of dogma and percicution for those condemed as “evil” by the “righteous” masses in there controled IGNORENCE!
the son of the sun has come to reclaim once was for the sun’s son…. water , water everwhere but not a drop to drink. water , water everywhere……open desalinisation(sp) and then we shall all drink…..with all of jimmy chen’s many wives.
Max what has happened? Getting old, getting tired, too well fed, making too much money or has hubris taken over, humility, respect?. Idiotic headline. Rand Paul is a politician so he is bought and paid for , so what if he is not a statesman like his father who inspires because he teaches and we are happy to be students and to learn. Global warming I have never heard him comment on and would not pay much attention even if he did. Lew Rockwell is a gentleman, principled, never raises his voice to make a point, teaches what he understands, is respectful.
Max, Max! Where are you? A silver bullet too many for lunch? The aliens have arrived? No Max, relax it will be all ok in the morning if not there is always the next day. I give up!
@john rob
An odd thing for me coincidentally is that I just heard thrice in the last week Lew Rockwell say, “Rand Paul is not a libertarian.” and “Rand claims he is not a libertarian.” Perhaps such recent mental injection helps me transfor Max’s headline into…
i like lew BUT he is the one who is not a libritarian in the first place, so he is no judge! he is a pure “ancrcist” and though Rand is still playing “coy” he stated from his own lips in one of those interviews last week that he had a small “libritarian” coilition going in the senate (he did NOT name names but he did make the claim) and if that is the case and HE sees him self as part of it , that spaeks to how he sees himself even if he did not directly self apply the lable. and that is close enuff for now.
If I invite a friend to smoke a cigar in my living room and close the windows and doors, will this tiny little cigar affect the atmosphere of my spacious living room??? Probably! The same is true of our planet’s atmosphere which is only 13 miles high and can be described as a kind of box. Although it may seem large it isn’t. What we put into our box affects our box.
The difference between a living room with cigar smoke and our atmosphere is that the living room can be aired by opening the windows and the door. Our planet’s ceiling is 13 miles high, but without windows or a door to open. In the past oceans and forests help regulate the atmosphere of our planet, but today their ability has been hindered, therefore we are stuck with what we put into our box.
and this coming from the “New Scientist”…
I dare say they will have yet another appendage to their theory of everything this week. What is it this week? String theory or noodle theory? Dark Matter or Inverse Matter? Vacuum Energy or Saturated Emptiness? The irresistable force or the immovable object?
2MIN News June 20, 2012: NASA Investigating New Science???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2hjsoEgwZI&feature=channel&list=UL
[snip]“AND the sophomoric jack-ass GWH (Global Warming Hoaxters) still haven’t “explained” why, when earth has a warming moment… so does Mars. ” IT’S THE SUN, STUPID! “”[/snip]
Um.. yeah. What about that? I don’t know Rand Paul or the other guy, but I think people who selectively choose data to make their case, ignoring plain logic cause-and-effect, are pretty idiotic. All the planets are warming at once. That is not debatable. How do you figure it’s the people on earth’s fault???
Who cares if the sea level rises in North Carolina? Or anywhere else for that matter?
Good day Chen-Meister.
How’s the noodle shop and the wives?
Long time no update. Brrrrrrrrr.
@ Mary Genoud
Your ‘smoking cigars’ analogy doesn’t work. First of all, consider that there are many variables at work here. For instance, since the beginning of time naturally occurring forest fires burned and burned and burned until it burned itself out. In the modern era we ‘meddle with nature’ by putting these fires out before they reach full affect. Therefore what is the compensation rate between the pollution we help stop by putting out forest fires in relation to the pollution we create by burning fossil fuels? I’m sure it’s just a small percentage but that’s just one of many variables. In my 36 years the air has never been cleaner. Drive away from the cities(which in and of themselves are far more clean than ever before when you consider population density) and you will see the trees and the breeze doing a great job at what they do- clean the air. Relax. With technology comes increased efficiency; with increased efficiency comes a reduction in waste byproduct(pollution). We can either step out of the way and let the free market work on REALISTIC clean energy technologies(windmills? give me a break- they’re special interest 8 track player technologies) or we can go back to living in mud huts.
http://milesmathis.com/
THE GREATEST STANDING ERRORS IN PHYSICS AND MATHEMATICS
by Miles Mathis
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@Mary Genoud and what pray tell is the out side of that “box’ made of?
your anology is flawed and Badly.
“only 13 miles high” Only? “hubris!” when is the last time you walked 13 miles? it is a LONG ways.
In the past oceans and forests help regulate the atmosphere of our planet, but today their ability has been hindered
ill buy that deforestaion is an on going issue BUT the “oceans” are known to do most of the “work” and the ocean’s ability to sequester CO2 is MAINLY in its “algy”(the smaller the plant the more efficient the photosynthesis “econimys of scale” in reverse , or craming more in to a smaller space) and so far i have heard there are NO claims that “algy” do any thing but get MORE plentiful as the oceans warm seasonaly or like in the case of “el nino” type curents from long cycle changes in ocean curents changing the flow of heat to the poles
the isues with deforestation go all the way back to easter island and are population based and OUR curent population over reach is enabled entirly by OIL being used to grow food stop DOING that and slef limiting factors will shrink us back down to a proper size for our “britches” in short order and “peak oil ” is doing just that right now and we are ALL starting to feel it! lean times are a commin’ and then it will only get leaner
@SilverPorno
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jimmy, dhat me, had to change username to james from jimmy….wery bibrical i know….
as for updates, just busy. wives have to much of jimmy attention. too much waa jimmy give me money, waa jimmy go make de noodle…. you understand…. arr yap no crose de frap.
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Failed Pledges, Weak Draft Lower Hopes for Rio+20 U.N. Conference on Sustainable Development in Brazil
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/20/failed_pledges_weak_draft_lower_hopes
Good to see some level heads are in the majority here, that is not cool aid drinkers swallowing AGW. It is getting tough for you Stacey, everytime you mention AGW it is always seasoned with some slander to the opposition and your fan base sticks it to you. You have laid off ths subject for awhile but I know your just chomping at the bit stir it up. Go for it, I for one love the comments.
your AGW denier fan
If we all pay our carbon taxes to Al Gore, will he bail out Greece and Spain for us?
Global warming is cover story for geoengineering (chemtrails)and implementing carbon tax!
nice to see you again James Chen, I thought Max had you disposed of.
Max. Stick to economics. You’re not a scientist and you have no idea how much politics and science have become a fascist enterprise just like corporations and politics have become a fascist enterprise. Truth in science is a rarity these days.
@ Mary Genoud. I’m sure you have heard the old saying. “Hell as no fury like a woman scorned.” Well not anymore. It ‘s now “hell as no fury like a AGW denier scorned.” Even the laws of physics is lost on these deniers.
@adampeart. About that hole in the ozone. Have you bought a aerosol can of Right Guard lately, or in the pass 15 years? Or have you recharged the A/C in your car? If so what did you use.. freon 113?
@ kdt
A process originally developed for algae harvesting shows promise as a solution for treating flowback water from hydraulic fracturing operations.
Los Angeles-based technology company OriginOil has developed products to enable the industrial scale harvesting of algae into renewable crude oil that is compatible with the current worldwide petroleum refining infrastructure.
In recent third party testing, OriginOil’s Solids Out of Solution System–powered by its Single Step Extraction technology, a solids separation and dewatering process–removed 98 percent of hydrocarbons from a sample of West Texas oil well flowback water in the first stage alone. The flowback water was tested in the lab – OriginOil is now getting out into the field to run commercial programs.
“We have only tested our process on frac flowback from oil wells and have yet to test on frac fluid from gas wells,” said OriginOil CEO Riggs Eckelberry, but said he believes OriginOil’s technology can help with removing any organic material.
The Single Step Extraction tubes use electrical pulses that neutralize the electric charge of the suspended or colloidal charges in the water, allowing them to come out of the solution.
Eckelberry compares the extraction process to making a pot of coffee, but then wanting to pull the coffee grounds back out.
It’s chemical-free, very low-energy, and can be operated in a continuous flow mode, Eckelberry said.
“Now what you have coming out of this is a sludge or concentrate that is still 80-90 percent water. But now it’s economical to use centrifuges and filters to remove the rest of the water, if desired,” he added,
The end product, for algae production, is a biocrude that is functionally identical to ***light sweet crude oil***.
“Algae is an aquatic species, so great quantities of water are used,” said Eckelberry. “However, this water can be waste water, or brackish, or ocean water. So there isn’t a comparison with frack water, which must be fresh.”
Researchers at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) found that 21 billion gallons of algal oil, equal to the 2022 advanced biofuels goal set out by the Energy Independence and Security Act, can be produced with American-grown algae. That adds up to 17 percent of the oil the nation imports for transportation. This could happen by 2022, helping the United States become more energy-independent, said Eckelberry.
Algae converts at a very high efficiency into biocrude, as it has lots of caloric value and happens to have the same molecular structure as petroleum, said Eckelberry. The Obama administration supports the use of algae as a biofuel, and the U.S. Navy has pushed for biofuels use, including algae. However, opposition exists in U.S. Congress, so the support the U.S. government can bring is probably limited at present, said Eckelberry.
“Algae is right now in better shape in Australia than in the U.S. because resource producers (miners etc.) can take a direct credit against their new carbon tax by investing in algae and other carbon capture technologies,” said Eckelberry. “This is driving a boom of adoption in ‘Algstralia.’”
The aviation industry supports greater use of biofuels in general, said Eckelberry. Algae fits into a blended biofuels program by brining its high caloric value and petroleum profile.
With water usage growing, so is the market for treatment solutions of produced water. According to Lux Research, the hydraulic fracturing water market is expected to increase to $9 billion in 2020 as hydraulic fracturing activity grows outside the United States.
PACE estimated that the cost to remediate frac water to class B purity, or groundwater grade, is approximately 21 cents to 26 cents a gallon, and for disposal in deep wells, 11 cents per gallon. OriginOil’s process, in conjunction with the PACE system, is estimated to cost about 7 cents per gallon.
@kdt
I’m not commenting on whether AGW is a fact or not. I’m commenting on the quality of denialist arguments. When it comes to debating skills, the scientists are winning hands down.
And your equating the opinion that AGW is a fact to it being a religion is silly. That argument could just as easily be used against those with an opposite opinion.
Do I know if AGW is a fact or not? Hell no, but I do know that We are not rational animals, we are rationalizing animals, and we are for the most part, incredibly wasteful and destructive unless some outside force reigns us in. Perhaps our psychopathic elites that are calling the shots are that force.
@Al Kyder
I always find your posts interesting. That doesn’t mean that can integrate the information into my life, or totally understand what you are saying, but your comments are well written and have a ring of truthiness to them.
Thanks for posting.
@Kim All the planets are warming at once. That is not debatable. How do you figure it’s the people on earth’s fault???
Ah, the solar system; sun spot system; ocean system………….
ALL the systems, above all the human, mankind system is STUCK inside the MONEY SYSTEM. All the arguments about and around the other system all come back to a “extend and pretend” sticking plaster to continue the illusion that is the monetary system and that wealth divide that the controllers of the system love.
Name calling and back biting over the presentation of problems in the other systems will not open your eyes to the ILLUSION that is money and the control it has on your lives, thoughts, beliefs and actions……. because it has pretty bits of paper that you can bundle together, fold and put in your pocket.
Change the zombie inducing money system and the human psyche can develop again instead of continuously consuming it’s own tail.
Hey RABBLE ROUSER,
If you think either of them are idiots, please invite them to your show and debate them… oh yeah, you only have people on your show that kiss up to you.
@Al kyder wow! tini plants work better for biofuel too! makes sence once it is right there in front of your nose! one wonders how much stuff like this we have missed .
@blow in
the “deniers” are also scientists usuly from fields steped on by agw’s eternal need to add “epicycles” to cover past WRONG predictions, combined with the extreem “compartmentalization” in the curent ‘scientific’ comunity this leads to pro agw “scientists’ wandering around MISS using reserch they dont understand fully to improperly suport there own flawed hypothisis, then when they publish some one from THAT field says somthing like “ummm hay guys it dont work like that” at wich point they are discredited for not being in the AGW field or they have worked for an oil company or in one case for being a “mexican”(i could not find ANY lack of credibility and the header on that story ramed MEXICAN in your face every time you looked for his reasearch) and BTW he disproves the idea that gasses have a”green house efect” AT ALL and not just “CO2″ he “confirmed” that ALL GASSES in fact conform to ALL the laws of thermodynamics with NO magic in CO2 that allows it to absorb and retain heat that the PHISICS involved state it CAN’T and even if it could! it could not “re emit” that energy in the way AGW NEEDS it to and even then when gasses heat up they “convect” and convection causes the refrigerent gasses in the atmosphere to expand and COOL stealing the “heat” that caused the air to rise in the first place(this prosess MUST be left out of ALL agw models or they DON”T work
religon is “faith” based and the use of logic to explore it is “herecy” as the faith is considered part of the program
science is a methodical cross check of your facts using logic that can be repeted by out side parties to confirm that NOTHING is taken on “faith” and passed on as “fact”
the definitions are mutaly exclusive and NOT interchangable. historicly anyone constantly making WRONG predictions and consistantly covering them up using “epicycles” is practicing a religon not engaging in science. either that or a con take your pick but it ain’t “science”. i WAS giving the un and the ipcc the benifit of the doubt on intentions but that is me having “faith”
@MrJones ever notice that as 3M’s patents run out,”that” refrigrent gass sudenly starts to burn holes in the ozone layer? odd isn’t it? and there new formula will never be an issue till its patent is up! it is AMASING how that works out for them EVERY TIME THEY DO IT. and even more amasing that gasses that are known to “sink” and puddle in our atmosphere can all on there own get ALL the way up to the ozone layer in spite of being HEAVIER that AIR!
freeman dyson is a lieing P.O.S. he reversed “cause” and “efect” in his reserch and has lied about it ever sence
ozone or O1 has an electrical ‘charge’ that seperated it from its natural form O2 where dose this charge come from? in the case of the “ozone layer” it is the high energy radiation coming in from the sun striking the O2 and geting absorbed taking on a charge and seperating………. so can you see his “mistake” right in that prosess! not only was the harmful raditation absorbed by the O2 the O1 has NO way to take on a charge as it is already charged and there for can NOT absorb ANYTHING the “hole” in the ozone layer is a LACK of incoming energy NOT the lack of a fundamentaly unstable form of oxigen.
General Rasta, SLA
Nigel Farage just had a MELTDOWN on FoKKKs business “news” …. blaming everything on the communist BOOGEYMAN and sucking up to the Americans by DENYING that the reason for the Eurozone’s problems is US TBTF banks’ toxic derivatives
where to start?………..
where is the ACCUAL race conection i do not see it?
scocilisim has killed to date nearly 100,000,000.00 people world wide !
Lenin: “It would not matter if three quarters of the world
were to perish, as long as the remaining quarter was communist.”
stalin: “A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.”
from the cubans , Castro and Che executed about 14,000:
(according to Che, when asked why, he answered because of “revolutionary morals”,
not because they violated any “bourgeois law”
mao didn’t talk about it he just followed the examples set by the ussr
sounds WORSE than any BOOGEYMAN man stories from childhood to me!
@ Blow-In
Thanks for that. I try to focus on other currencies. In this case oil and gas and particularly gas (Blue Gold) is in focus. The price of gas is at historical lows. We must be carful here or we will end up with an economy based entirely on gas, because it is cheap right now.Once where hooked watch the price go through the roof.
Like they say Britannia Rules the wave, and all those LNG ships will have contracts at around 10$ tcf for the gas and when that rises to 20 / 30. and 50 $ tcf The price of gas at the well head has fallen dramatically over he last 3 months, down to just 2.25$ and yet the residential price of gas continues to rise. http://205.254.135.7/dnav/ng/ng_pri_sum_dcu_nus_m.htm
I will also focus on CPI, Cuppochino price index. (I cant spell cuppoccino) in the future. http://dev.ico.org/prices/m1a.htm
@ Blow-In
p.s. I like your posts too. I always enjoy reading them.
@Kdt ozone or O1 has an electrical ‘charge’ that seperated it from its natural form O2 where dose this charge come from? in the case of the “ozone layer” it is the high energy radiation coming in from the sun striking the O2 and geting absorbed taking on a charge and seperating………. so can you see his “mistake” right in that prosess! not only was the harmful raditation absorbed by the O2 the O1 has NO way to take on a charge as it is already charged and there for can NOT absorb ANYTHING the “hole” in the ozone layer is a LACK of incoming energy NOT the lack of a fundamentaly unstable form of oxigen.
Didn’t understand that? Ozone is O3. And ozone is a RESULT of the protection NOT the protection.
@adampeart. Cigar smoke does not alter a living room’s environment; it just stinks-up the room. The point was airing the room could remove pollution, however our planet does not have this option, since its atmosphere is closed, windowless and doorless. Natural means for ‘airing’ our atmosphere, forests and oceans have been exhausted. By the way, currently there is an enormous forest fire inland into the Amazon; areas impacted by drought, protective moisture levels impaired, thus ancient forests up in smoke. They will burn until the fire reaches areas where the moisture levels are still intact. This will affect the atmosphere of our box.
@kdt, in 1950 our global population was 2 billion, today we are 7 billion. To feed this growing population over the past 60 years we destroyed many forests. As for the oceans, they once sequestered 35% of CO2, but not anymore no matter how much plankton they have. The oceans have become acidic, which is really sad for fish and creatures with shells. We are end-resourced and it is cataclysmic. It didn’t have to be this way, people could have been informed and chosen lifestyles that were more sustainable, it could have been through democratic process with mother nature having a vote, but that is not what happened. We live kdt in a box and there is no escape hatch.
@ AK, do you have any information on the sulfur content of that bio oil?
Since that is the key ingredient in fuels, and the major pollutant, i would be interested to know how if fares against E85 based ethanols.
I tried to explain that gasoline and diesel do not ignite in engines, I know its sounds very odd.
What it does is change the frequency of the air in the cylinders, which produces energy though expansion, and implosion. Hot in one millisecond and ice cold in another.
The waste of that so called fuel goes out the tail pipe.
If you think i am just crazy, ask yourself this, if those gases and sometimes fuel that come out of the tail pipe are still what they are, why can you not light them or make them explode?
So science is corrupted and has been put into place to be the authority that you rely on to quote your understanding of nature and all things to be understood.
You can continue to go though life believing what they tell you is real, or do your own experiments and find out that you have been lied to all along.
love and gratitude
Rand Paul is an ass. I like Lew Rockwell and I like many of the libertarian ideals but the label is definitely co-opted. I mean Glen Beck? Come on. Calling himself that should make any self respecting classical rethink the title. Noam Chomsky and Ron Paul both call themselves libertarians. It’s a word that’s been watered down. Don’t get caught up with labels, get caught up in ideas.
@ JonnyJanes I should have read the comments before I posted. Well said. My thoughts exactly.
Not to worry, Max & Stacey the U.S. gov’t has been secretly building
arks that will take the wealthy and super smart eugenics demigods to safe harbor.
I know you are one of those. Here is irrefutable evidence that it is true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UylcJlVb5-E
And as for climate change, we have raised co2 ppm well above what it’s been for the past 600 000 years. There has to be some effect. But to deny the sun’s role in the issue is beyond naive. How do you explain warming periods of years gone by? How do you explain global warming on other planets in our solar system? Environmentalists, OWS and the TEA party have to come together and realize who the real problem is here.
He’s not a Keiser, he’s a very silly boy.
Here is a lifeboat for those who want to survive the sea level rising.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/surviving-apocalypse-lifeboat
Is cheap I just bought one myself. Since I can’t afford to get on the arks that the
NWO has built in China.
@ Steveosilver
Its should be almost sulphur free, it would depend on the source of the oil too, its not a synthetic bio-fuel, the algae soaks up what type of oil is there.
As for the engines running on nothing, of sorts, you would still need fuel to start them, and how would you develop horse power without fuel? If what you say is true, then it is not appropriate for the type of cars and uses they are subject too on todays roads.
people who are only knowledgeable about finance who profess to know more about climate than meteorologists and more about climate change than geophyscists should either shut up or be removed from the gene pool.
Max and stacey and good when they talk economics but when they drone on about AGW they are complete morons
want to argue with me?
I have a degree in geology and work as a geophysist and i can assure you the climate has fuck all to do with human induced C02
we are enetering a new ice age
wake up
temperatures always go up prior to their collapse
look up milankovitch cycles to educate yourselves
IS the environemnt being fucked?
absolutely but it has nothing to do with C02 a gas plants need to live
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/06/globalists-switching-gears-royal.html
http://iceagenow.info/2012/06/global-warming-alarmists/
please talk about a subject you know about ie finance and leave climate to others
you really do not know what the fuck you are talking about so STFU , M and S
I also notice max is a whiner really
drones on but offers no solutions
what exactly is your agenda?
you hate market manipulation but then also hate libertarians who wnat a free market?
so what exactky do you want?
as for oil use
If you want a solution try promoting HEMP
HEMP couild be grown by anyone and has the greatest biomass on earth, requires no fertilizer and could provide enough biofuel for everyone plus make a non toxic plastic.,
paper, food and clothing
If you wmnat to talk about what damage oil does, please state FACTS
FACTS are its not really the burning of it that causes the most harm its the synthtic fertilizers we get from it that washes into to our oceans causing eutrophication
you should be promoting organic farming and hemp as a solution not droning on about
myths such as C02
if you also want to know whats ruining the planet its not C02 but CONCRETE
bu6t5 I gues you think rampant construction on countryside is ok as long as the concrete
condos do not release C02
ytou really both let yourselves down big time with crap talk like this
I have to applaud Max’s willingness to rock the boat. I consider myself to have a strong libertarian streak yet the fact-free fantasy world that some choose to live in is mind numbing.
There is a lot of ignorance on all sides of matters of ecology and economics… http://truthalert.net/Top%20Partisan%20Misconceptions%20Haunting%20Rio+20.htm
@ kdt — If you take all the theories on this thread and add them up you come up with PARALYSIS. You’ve got the AGW theory the coming ice age theory, the the Al Gore and environmentalist want to steal all my money theory, the hydrocarbons don’t burn [oxidize] in an ICE engine theory, the entire solar system is heating up theory, the Milankovitch cycle theory. the hemp will save us theory and a few that I haven’t checked out yet. I can not prove or disprove any of these from my home at the edge of the bog.
I like the expanding earth theory meself. Not that I particularly believe it, but I like it.
And that list doesn’t include all of the political conspiracy theories and counter theories and counter counter double reverse theories.
It’s kinda like just pick a theory then gather all the quotes you can find to add weight to your conditioned bias. As Jack say’s. “It is just a bunch of people trying to type themselves smart.”
That’s all I have time for. I have to check out some interesting conspiracy theory I ran into on another site.
Be Well
@ Al Kyder
It’s cappuccino. I could be content living in a clay cottage with a turf fire eating potatoes cabbage and bacon, but don’t take away my caffeine and nicotine please.
Oh and enough cash to go up to the PUB for 3 or 4 pints of the black stuff now and then would be nice as well. [just for the vitamins]
Cheers
Leading Global Warming Advocate Recants! … ‘Models Fail Dramatically …’
Thursday, June 21, 2012 – by Staff Report
Globalists Switching Gears: Royal Society Lecturer Says CO2 Not Affecting Earth’s Temperature … Fritz Vahrenholt, a German green energy investor, says he has reassessed his position on man-made climate change.
What is most disturbing is why are Max and Stacey such ferocious AGW defenders?
@AK thanks for asking a follow up question.
The sulfur content is the key to pollution for all fuels, in this case it is what is killing the planet, ie the brimstone, lol.
Plant based ethanols are the ticket to the future, it was known as far back as 1890.
Yes you are correct fueless operation of a internal combustion engines is possible, but it is so hard for us to repeat it consistently it would not be for the masses.
What has been proved and patented is a process called the Hull effect technology.
It uses output from the alternator to energize the oil by inserting a conductor into the oil passage.
This energizing of the oil conditions the engine to become almost frictionless in operation.
So the frictional losses that all engines have is now eliminated, only the external devices, alternator, power steering, ac, ect are now considered.
The engine becomes a harmonic device of sorts, then the water in the cooling system becomes energized allowing for a more efficient heat transfer.
One of the requirements is that it must be a non fuel injection motor, I know that is getting tougher these days as all engines are being fuel injected.
All the selling points of fuel efficiency that were sold with injections system never have come to pass.
Why because they write the software that keeps the engines using more fuel than is required, but anyway back to the examples.
So what begins to happen to this energized motor is the fuel begins to what i will refer to as Hydro fracking. The oxygen and water molecules begin to expand and produces gasious energy, is the only way i can explain it.
Some of this understanding can come from water injection system that have been introduced in history only to have failed due to the introduction process of the water.
Because as the engine conditions itself to these new requirements, the engines need less and less fuel per se, or a lean condition.
This lean condition in a fuel injection system would call for the computer to add fuel, because the software is not designed to these conditions, hence its stupid.
So then what happens in this lean condition, you would expect the engine would run hotter, but it does not, it runs cooler, and it produces more power, and then you must lower the rpms to detune the engine.
So what ends up happing is that you have an engine that runs at low rpms and produces massive amounts of torque, without almost any heat.
The proof of concept engines that this was displayed on for the issuing of the patents was on a tractor, big rig, and a car, of course they were all originally gasoline versions, not diesel models.
The tractor engine, a 1959 tiger motor was run for 45 minutes and the engine under full load on the dyno produced 2x the torque as it was displayed under a minor tune.
Participants could touch the exhaust manifolds during the test only to find that it was only slightly above 80 degrees F.
So going back to your question, although gasoline produces very good results, E85 ethanol produced the best results.
So once where you would need gallon per hour you now only need ounces per hour under full continuous loads.
So yes they are not fueless, they need fuel vapor to start and ounces per day in most circumstances.
I know this seems very complicated to put and run on a car and most will not do it.
Since the PTB have locked down this technology now and most likely it will not be in productions ever, because it reverses everything that a mechanic thought he knew how engines run and operate.
We the people as we can understand this technology must spread the word on how to replicate it.
The farmer is the one person to help first.
If his energy consumption overhead can almost be eliminated then he can become truly independent from the cabal.
He can be off the grid, using a genset utilizing the HE on it, almost eliminates all electrical costs to power equipment on the farm.
So with this tech everyone can become a farmer of sorts, we do not need vast acres of land, as hydroponics and indoor farming are now possible on the cheap.
Of course we have to consider the costs of equipment, lighting, pumps, ect.
But as hemp growers know the benefits of indoor, lol.
Frictionless motors that do not produce heat above 90F even during days of 100F is unheard of, and eliminate wear and tear to the extent that they last decades, especially since they run at such low rpms also.
Another benefit is that the water that was to be used for cooling the engine, can now be used as a hot water heater as a by product, it can be pumped into exchangers during the winter to heat the home, and the same during the summer to cool the home.
But back to the cars, and the key to the future is being sold on electric vehicles, where is that power going to come from, because i do not see solar panels on the vehicles, just a plug.
If everyone had a battery vehicle then the grid would have enormous capacity, and to think about all that lithium that could be mined out of Afghanistan, lol.
If anyone has heard me, and can see all the implications on the HE and how many technologies would be rendered moot, you see the mountain that must be moved.
This technology would be able to replace so many industries, they can not let it be known.
I know that by now you may have stopped reading as it is too much to consider or its all bs, i get that.
If you invest in gold and silver, why not invest in a genset that has the HE on it.
If the shit hits the fan, how will you produce energy, i hope you at least have a couple of panels and a bank of deep cycle batteries, and an inverter.
One of the benefits of the HE on an internal combustion engine is that air that comes out is cleaner than what went in, I know that is the one that will kill this for any of you that may have gotten this far and think that i am just crazy.
Now you know what we are up against now, a device that produces almost free energy, from a internal combustion engine that have been built for 60 years, ie 1962 was the introduction of the alternator on most produced cars.
That this almost fueless engine could be coupled to a gen head, its by products produce hot water, and clean the air we breath.
It could be kept in the home because it does not produce carbon monoxide.
If for nothing else just take this information as a hedge for the future what have you got to lose, i am not selling anything, i give you this information for free to do as you want with it.
But you have been told how easy it is, compared to cold fusion, or any other device that you might be able to buy.
Google the Hull Effect Technology.
I hope you find love and gratitude
daddy warbucks
my feeling exactly…
it makes me question Max and Stacey big time
controlled opposition comes to mind
we all know C02 carbon credits are another derivative scam
strange that they declare war against derivatives and financial terrorism but when it come sto carbon derivatives , potentially the biggest scam of them all they support it.
Perhaps we will find out they are both backdoor bilderbergers all along
I wondered how they get away with some of what they say
now we know why