you just can’t make this stuff up… [STACY'S NOTE: YES, IN FACT, YOU CAN MAKE IT UP. THIS IS A BIG HOAX STORY ORIGINATING FROM SORCHA FAAL, WHO IS ABLE TO TAP INTO THE PARANOID FUCKED UP BRAINS OF AMERICANS who apparently will believe almost anything as long as you allude to a vast government cover up. Dudes, you have to step away from all your goddamned fear and paranoia. Aren't you frickin' tired of it? Isn't it exhausting to be send out the F-16s every time someone walks past with an umbrella? Maxkeiser.com has a dozen or so contributors and I don't like to edit anyone else's work, but this is important that people understand THIS IS A HOAX STORY; there are plenty of genuine conspiracies out there and these hoax ones are devised and perpetrated in order to keep you fools misdirected].
The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’
UPDATE: Senate Banking Aide confirms that neither of these parents were ever scheduled to testify.
OMG!
Actually Max, you can make this stuff up, and I think they have. I am willing to bet it is the dead one that was the whistleblower.
http://financial-advisors.findthebest.com/l/381613/Nancy-Lanza
Same town, consistent with the friend here:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-lanza-family-profile/index.html
“Nancy Lanza had earlier worked in finance in Boston and Connecticut, said a friend who knew her well but who didn’t want her name published.”
“..Guns were her hobby,” Dan Holmes, who got to know Lanza while doing landscaping work for her, told The Washington Post. “She told me she liked the single-mindedness of shooting.” …
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so said mr. dan holmes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/nancy-lanza-mother-of-gunman-private-home-life_n_2313027.html
Nancy Lanza, Mother Of Newtown Gunman, A Quiet Woman, ‘Guns Were Her Hobby’
By ADAM GELLER 12/16/12 08:41
Time to start a Guns For Gold program, where the government gives people gold bars in return for their guns. But that won’t stop mind-controlled CIA slaves from mowing down innocent civilians in a haze of blood, thereby preventing their fathers from testifying in the Libor scandal.
so were these mind control (just simple hypnotism) murders intended to kill witnesses or simply intimidate them?!?
That is one hell of a coincidence. The implications made though seem extremely far fetched. Am I to believe that there is a shady organization with the power to program the children of whistleblowers to inlfict horrendous massacres on the general populace in order to protect the biggest criminal heist known to mankind ?
I do not know that it is a coincidece. I am of of the opinion corporate criminals are much more dangerous than your street crim.
As criminal activity runs in families at street level.
Complete self obsorption in self, does run in families at corporate level.
You Know it does.
Check this vid … the words “Aurora” and “Sandy Hook” both appear in the movie The Dark Knight Rises. (use fullscreen to see Sandy Hook penciled in)
http://www.disclose.tv/news/SANDY_HOOK_Reference_in_Batman_Movie/87648
@claire,
was nancy lanza’s middle name jean or elaine? if you know.
and to which dead whistle blower do you refer?
Pete Lanza’s LinkedIn profile looks legit and active, while showing him as a hell level tax executive at GE. Just need senate schedule to confirm. Too lazy to thumb type any more on this phone.
lets play ‘what if?’ What if someone wanted to intimidate the family of someone who was about to Testify? ‘What if ‘ they went to the house of the mother and being that she had ‘weapons’ things went bad & she got killed. ‘What if’…Adam ran and they followed and things got out of control and they made him the scapegoat…?? Just sayin..too many coincidences….something is just not right with the whole scenario….I just dont see this kid as the shooter.
John Lott: More Guns, Less Crime!
“….In a talk given on the very day a gunman was apprehended at the University of Austin, American senior research scientist at the University of Maryland and gun rights expert John Lott explains why guns bans only serve to increase gun crime rates, why the pilots should be armed, and how statistics prove that since the DC handgun ban was lifted, there has been a dramatic drop in the murder rate.
Lott points to his research which proves that there isn’t a place in the world where a gun ban lowers gun crime, in fact stricter firearms regulation habitually leads to an increase in murder rates, because the only people who follow such regulations are law-abiding citizens who turn in their guns and thus leave themselves vulnerable to armed criminals who don’t obey the law.
Speaking on the subject of pilots being armed, Lott points out that up until 1979, pilots were mandated to carry with them a loaded handgun and throughout decades of this policy there is not one example handguns causing a problem on an airliner, demolishing the innumerable “what if” hypothetical arguments of those who oppose arming the pilots, as well as the arguments against having concealed carry on college campuses.
Lott details statistics that show since the Washington DC handgun ban was lifted, there has been a huge drop in murder rates, a fact that has received virtually no news coverage in the anti-second amendment establishment media. Crimes using guns since the ban was lifted fell by about three times as fast as other crimes not involving guns. Alternatively, since the Chicago gun ban in 1982, Lott documents how gun crime soared in both Chicago and surrounding areas……”
http://youtu.be/SFbAj-75R-A (54:27)
@blindman The link Clair gives says it is Elaine
Hope that helps
I’m calling bullshit on the LIBOR connection. There is no hard info. that either father was going to testify. Please post anything to the contrary.
In ALL these crimes there is ALWAYS a psychiatric drug and a psychiatrist involved.
As for the LIBOR connection I would not be surprised at all. USA is not a country. Its a crimnal cartel. So they would not hesitate to use an autistic kid, drug him to hell with psychotropes. By the way nobody talks about the sexond shooter, because there was also a second shooter. I dont beliece that a 20 year old autustic child can kill that many people witout the help of a professionnal US government terrorist from the FBI or the CIA.
AMTV – Published on Dec 16, 2012
School Massacre Obama’s Scapegoat to Ban Guns !!!
http://youtu.be/ahuB6KGsDzg (8:32)
President Obama is an Emotional Guy !!!
http://youtu.be/Zt0-EtPdB_U (7:34)
Hillary Clinton FAKES Concussion, Won’t Testify on Benghazi !!!
http://youtu.be/3e-VLZ-_PsM (4:18)
scopolamine can make anyone do crazy things.
who knows what our government is capable of
@karin,
the other says it is jean.
“Nancy Jean Lanza sued Peter John Lanza for divorce on November 24, 2008 — three days before Thanksgiving, Connecticut court records show.
The husband was known in the family as “P.J.,” Marsha Lanza said.
Nancy Lanza checked off “yes” for financial disputes but “no” for parenting disputes, records show.
They were divorced in September 2009 after an uncontested hearing, records show.”
.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-lanza-family-profile/index.html
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here the problem ?
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2012/12/16/how-to-spot-a-hypocrite-in-the-gun-debate-and-other-reflections-on-newtown/
I guess i’m not taking the kids to Libor Camp this summer. but seriously Alex Jones is going to be pissed if they start making preppers look crazy.
It seems like a desperate purge of whistle-blowers, and designed to be as artistic as possible to demonstrate the power of the banking mafia.
The last video of the list seems legit to me. The attached information has credible sources and there seems to be plausible relation between the people involved in both events. Quadruple Crap.
Remember the movie Hunger games? This movie is about children getting killed in a futuristic world. The author of Hunger games lives in Sandy hook.
Aurora, the temple shooting and Sandy hook all had CCTV surveillance and the footage is inexplicably unavailable. In other words the confirmation of exactly what happened is missing without explanation three times in a row. In all cases second shooters are reported and then whitewashed out of the media narrative three times in a row.
You can check where the author of hunger games lives on David Icke site.
AMERICA! Land of the conspiracy theorist…
O boy, you are so screwed out of your minds. You are suppose to be in mourning for your tragic losses. Peter Lanza may have been whoever and whatever – but he recently lost a wife and a son. This is not the time to trample on their graves. You should be ashamed of yourselves!
It’s interesting that repports of second and third assailants whitewashed from Port Authur and Dunblane massacres as well.
I have to say, I have a real problem with the target sellection in these tragedies. The idea of a massacre of children over other targets is puzzling. Finally, I would think that self loathing or low self esteem would compell suicide over lashing out at innocents.
“…. was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal.”
….uhhhhh, ‘scandals’ don’t have schedules and a major part of the LIBOR scandal is that there is no ‘court’ or ‘hearings’ which are ‘scheduling’. This same dis/mis-information attempt was injected into the CO shooter case, which sourced back to the fantastical “Sorcha Faal”.
Seems like more ‘well poisoning’ to me.
Articles like this are much more interesting than Stacy’s anti-gun rants on twitter.
Dustbowl Daze,
If the CIA is behind it, then why should all of the law-abiding citizens give up their rights? It seems like a contradiction.
Notice that not one of these articles pointing to a Libor conspiracy provides any evidence other than links to the proof that the fathers worked in the financial services industry. Then some perhaps bonkers person has merely asserted that they were both meant to testify about Libor without providing a single shred of evidence for this assertion. So don’t just read a headline asserting something and then start shrieking it yourself without asking for the proof! If these men were due to testify before Congress, there will be a public record.
As it is, actual men who really were involved in the actual rigging of Libor are already co-operating with the Dept of Justice and providing the evidence against the others. There is NOTHING that someone working in the tax department at GE Finance could possibly say that is more damning than the actual friggin’ emails saying, “hey, let’s rig Libor!”
@Vonda Bra: “Lott points to his research which proves that there isn’t a place in the world where a gun ban lowers gun crime, in fact stricter firearms regulation habitually leads to an increase in murder rates, because the only people who follow such regulations are law-abiding citizens who turn in their guns and thus leave themselves vulnerable to armed criminals who don’t obey the law.”
Bill Hicks: “One year in England 14 deaths due to handguns, the same year in America 23,000 deaths due to handguns”
@Stacyherbert: “Notice that not one of these articles pointing to a Libor conspiracy provides any evidence other than links to the proof that the fathers worked in the financial services industry” – Absolutely!
Lets wait for the evidence before getting carried away with allegations and yet more conspiracy theories, I think we got enough of them to last many years already without making up more baseless theories. The fact is if people would look at History, it becomes clear that these type of shootings are nothing new (most people are trying to make out that this is a new phenomena), the first type of this dreadfull incident is not in the 1950′s or 1960′s it’s amazingly in 1764!!!!! From Wikipedia: The earliest known United States shooting to happen on school property was the Pontiac’s Rebellion school massacre on July 26, 1764, where four Lenape American Indians entered the schoolhouse near present-day Greencastle, Pennsylvania, shot and killed schoolmaster Enoch Brown, and killed nine or ten children (reports vary). Only three children survived.
LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
Stacey, I agree. The stories about the fathers look like nothing but rumor. WHY IS IT ON YOUR SITE?
Meanwhile, there is a possible link between Nancy Lanza (the dead person) and Morgan Stanley that no one considers suspicious?
@s.v.,
there are no graves yet to trample and p.l. lost his first
wife in 2009 or so , his choice, then replaced her. he did lose
his ex-wife, first, and his second son though he may have lost
his son long ago? there is the problem of the coherency of the
narrative that must be addressed as the known results of the case
demand attention for what should be obvious reasons.
the critical question is the state of mind of the perpetrator.
that is the causative agent of the massacre and as usual it is
being delicately avoided and there we go again, thank you very much.
with all due respect,
a psychological autopsy and toxicology is called for.
this article is my doing – I put this up – I thought it was an interesting coincidence that there was a connection to the fathers of both shooters
is it a smoking gun – no.
is there some reflection of the corrupt system we in our own way each support – perhaps.
is it more than strange – I’ll say!
@SandVelder how many Pakistani children slaughter by US drones have you mourned?
He is Director and Vice President at GE Finance Energy.
That is confirmed:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249217/Sandy-Hook-shooting-Adam-Lanzas-father-Peter-new-wife-Shelley-Cudiner-fled-Connecticut-home.html
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/peter-lanza/11/515/83b
@jischinger – and where is there any proof that both or either father was going to testify? and where are these committee hearings? Aurora happened months ago. Where is that committee the father is due to testify at? Why does the source material for this story link to evidence that where the fathers worked but then fail to provide a link to any evidence for their assertions that they were going to testify?
And his mother was a prepper.
Now what about the ethical silver? Did you BTFD Max?
We need something concrete to show if there’s a Libor investigation and who is supposed to be testifying in it. In the US there are probably hundreds of people with the same surnames who are not even related. There’s quite enough strange coincidences already with out dreaming up more.
Hang on, are people now saying the Newtown shooting was some sort of plan to get others off the hook?
I think that what is certainly significant regarding this story is that
a) you don’t become a high-level tax cheat for GE/etc. without being an ‘insider’, meaning an illuminati-type, meaning families where everyone is an MK-ULTRA child abuse victim where multiple programmed personalities were created.
=> http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/svali_index.htm
b) these are not the type of people who go out to testify for the common good. It seems more likely that some of their children were simply picked to play out a terrorist act in order to try to force society to accept gun bans at a time when ever larger parts of society are waking up about the scams and systemic parasitism by our ‘elites’.
Stacy has it right when she mentions how much more damaging email evidence is (assuming anyone is actually trying to build a case against the culprits). Too bad she fails so miserably with her attempts to argue for gun control at a time like this…
And FWIW: I don’t own any guns and used to be for gun control (back when I was a dupe of the mainstream), but now I realize the greater agenda and can easily see how all these horrendous child killings are orchestrated by our sick elites. Having guns won’t save us from them, but it does redress the balance of power a little bit: gun control is a change in the WRONG DIRECTION.
Ban Prozac And Other Mass Murder Drugs Not Guns!
Alex Jones
Prison Planet.com
December 15, 2012
Prozac and its family of psychotropic drugs are at the heart of 99% off mass murder shootings. The media also hypes victim disarmament zones like public brainwashing centers as a great place for Prozac and Zoloft heads to kill. They always go to the place with no guns so they can take there time. Guns don’t kill people kook psychologist pushing SSRI do.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ban-prozac-and-other-mass-murder-drugs-not-guns.html
@Danny Cunnington – if anyone in US feels like calling and confirming, they just need to contact the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations of the House Financial Services Committee; they are in charge of the Libor investigation http://financialservices.house.gov/subcommittees/issue/?IssueID=32921
Ok I was right.
We are all idiots. This was an ‘inside job’ to protect ‘illuminati’ people money laundering, we are all ‘sheeple’ hooked into the mainstream while a few crackpots, sorry… ‘enlightened’ few can see what the rest of the world doesn’t.
It’s all a plan to get America disarmed and get rid of their guns for a hostile take over by ‘the elites’.
sometimes there’s quite insightful things in these comments but most of the time I think the world has gone mad.
… @Oky1 |good ol’ AJ, said that hurricane Sandy was a false flag. I don’t listen to the man
The US has a substantiated long history of false flag events on it’s own citizens, knee jerks need to step away from their ideology long enough (if possible) to see if they may very well be the useful idiots of an oppressive government.
Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open
http://youtu.be/y9WINMR9dbU
Cheify,
That’s ok, don’t listen to Alex, anyone can find out the facts researching this subject on the net./google search….
Infowars & Naturalnews have detailed/compiled a large amount of data showing the connection between people going nuts, kids getting autism, through the poisoning of our air/food/water/meds/vaccines.
“Mad as a Hatter”
It’s been known for sometime now mercury in the vaccines, from coal fired power plants/coal mining & other sources, aka fish,etc…, can make people go crazy or become autistic.
If one is really interested in having less nutcases & lower medical cost I suggest they research the facts instead of jumping up & down trying to have the tyrannical governments take away more of the people’s “Rights”.
OK, so I’m going out on a theoretical psychological limb here, but I think it’s a sensible proposition.
No conspiracy theory, no CIA plot, but no coincidence either.
How about a uniquely individual mental health problem which both kids experienced due in large part to their father’s professional lives. Can you imagine the strain of the cognitive dissonance in these 2 children – if they felt largely as we do, that banksters are horrible human beings. These 2 children had to emotionally reconcile that
1) the people who loved them best and most in this world, whom they looked up to most, who helped them most in life and cared for them lovingly,….
2) these very same people were also responsible for immoral acts which chronically go unpunished, for financially engineering the misery of millions through their well-respected professional activities.
If they were sensitive, intelligent boys, the sheer force of these conflicting ideas could have driven the poor boys to desperate, unbalanced thoughts. We all carry the burden of cognitive dissonance, but perhaps these boys were closer to Ground Zero.
@stacy you’re right, nothing I’ve found so far provides anything amounting to a news story – I should have put the “?” in the title or omitted the post altogether. Still, there’s something more going on here, and even though I’m not looking to fall into the illuminati conspiracy deep cliff, or for a negative balance at the karma bank, but if there is some connection, as odd as it may be, what a strange and fantastic coincidence.
It amazes me when you read the propaganda from gun lovers. In Canada, which has gun control there are proven statics available . From 1975 there were 312 deaths that were gun related and in 2012 the total was 160.
Since the introduction of stricter gun laws in 1991, there has been a 65 per cent reduction in homicides by long guns, Statistics Canada data shows. The reduction in homicides involving any type of firearm was down more than 37 per cent.
Canada’s crime rate in 2011 lowest since 1972.
No link between Peter Lanza y LIBOR U.S. Senate scandal.
http://occupycorporatism.com/no-viable-connection-between-peter-lanza-us-senate-libor-hearings/
I watched a spoiled four year old child scream when a sharp knife was taken from him.
How he screeched and and stormed about and yelled.
An ideal candidate for president of the NRA.
@jischinger – I am going to change the title of this post and also add an editor’s note as this story is now thoroughly debunked: http://occupycorporatism.com/no-viable-connection-between-peter-lanza-us-senate-libor-hearings/
The source of this original fucking stupid story is Sorcha Faal; and whoever he is, it’s pretty amazing how good he is at getting nutters to spread his obviously stupid stories everywhere; all it ever took for this from the time of Aurora was for someone to just contact the House Financial Services committee and confirm what is obviously a falsehood
Please don’t post any more conspiracy bullshit; well, in fact, I’ve changed your posting ability to contributor rather than author so I will have to approve any new posting.
libor has been proven and admitted to. this has nothing to do with libor. your all nuts.
oh. i wondered how this fool was posting. he,s a fucking author?
better yet. scrap the whole post.
@Stacy. now your talking. i love when you say fuck.
@ronron – no, it’s better to leave it up so that all who believed it – until I the sensible one who asked the simple question, ‘where’s the evidence? – can see what they believed for no damn reason; I won’t allow stupid conspiracy hoaxes from Sorcha Faal on our site any more – at least not if it’s as obvious as this – but it’s a good lesson for all that just because you read it on this site or any other site, IT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S TRUE . . . do your own research, follow the links provided in the story, look at the names, the sources, the dates, the content; and then ask yourself why so many believed this story that started with the Aurora killing and yet the guy spreading it has never once added a source for this assertion that there was a hearing at which these guys were to testify? Some Joe Bag of Donuts makes an assertion and that’s all that’s needed? Just because it fits with your ideology or belief that government is evil so there is nothing too bonkers you won’t believe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc
it does boggle the mind that 2 brilliant men went on to carry out these crimes.
I demand the right to believe things that are unbelievable and no American in London is going to stop me.
Now where is my amitriptimine and vodka.
ok. i got rocks to carry and charts to study. will keep you posted.
Alex Jones was doing pretty good on the gun “Rights” issues & the Big Pharma’s rotten dope causing people to go nuts, but then he falls on his azz dragging in religion & his anti-abortion crap.
I have to shut him off from time to time.
Hey Jones, I’ve got a shelf full of bibles, I don’t need your preach religious dogma crap.
And good luck attempting to defend your defense of “Legitimate Rape” foolish.
From ole white guy to another if you don’t want an abortion then d0n’t get one, but don’t take away anyone else’s individual “Right”.
I’ve read Roe v Wade & agree with the Supreme Count’s decision!
Jones tells us don’t play their Red vs Blue team, divide & conquer scam & then he constantly runs right back to play Red vs Blue sheeet!
AJ end your religious jihad against South Vaginastan, women aren’t buying it & nether am I.
I hate recommending his websites to people just because of his inability to respect other people’s “Rights” & opinions.
Sorcha Faal aka Mark Dice is, or was, David Booth a CIA disinformation officer who’s been know to anyone even remotely interested in Globalist hireling’s activities, for many years.
Lately it’s become clear that Booth may be out of play and Sorcha Faal is being portrayed by new, multiple spooks. The writing style of the posts are no longer as consistent.
I’m beginning to feel that Stacy Herbert just doesn’t know how to have a good time.
Stacy Herbert has turned into a Teri Buhl. -and I thought Connecticut was Teri Buhl country. You must dig and dig until you find the truth it seems. Teri Buhl is awesome and a great role-model for other female financial reporters. -the Badger (dig! dig! dig!) of financial reporting. Good job Stacy.
The True Source Of Random & Mass Shootings And Violence !!!
http://youtu.be/UhO0Pul_FcE (11:21)
@sherbert you will notice this is MY first post in here and your findng on this is NO suprise TO me and the ONLY reason im in here now(i did make a toung in cheak response on a difrent thread when this story was posted there), the whole thing is just TOO far feched , the claimed link was just not possable when you stop to CRITICLY examine it. that said did YOU wach ANY of the john taylor gatto links ????? if not for god sake DO SO if you want to have any hope of understanding what is WRONG, the “WHY” of american “goddamned fear and paranoia.”and YES we or atleast I am “frickin’ tired of it!!!!” and want REAL soloutions this time if not this problem is going to go critical and melt down(no this is NOT “goddamned fear and paranoia” the stats back that statement up to the HILT) and the KEY is in what YOU said about the swiss in that other thread.
read this and put your self in HER shoes and try not to cry I COULD NOT (i couldn’t even FINSH reading it)
http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother
THIS HAS TO STOP but to DO that we need to admit that the REAL isue is what the schools are DOING to OUR kids. it is NOT that these kds are on drugs or had acess to guns that is the isue! it is that they are beng driven nutz by the schools as part of there social engineering in the first place! and NO this is not paranoia ETHER at least not accordng to the sociopathc rantngs of the harvard elite that J.T.G. is quotng in the short so if YOU dont LIKE the “news” take it up wth them and spare ME the condescension this time (HELL sherbert the lack of critical thnkng that led to your edit of this posting is a direct result of what im talking about.)
I’M not the one who made this crap up that was the elites im just the bearer of the bad news and so sorry for crapng on peoples need to belive the system is benign………… IT AIN’T so get the F***over it!
this mess is not a “falure” it is a FEACHER of the system and it is intended to do EXACTLY what it is doing , and the ACTUAL reason for gun control!! the FAIL was that the PTB were unable to disarm us befor society at large became THIS unstable from what they KNEW they were doing to us! though in places that they did manage it , it did NOT stop it from happenng a weapon of some sort USUALY a gun ALWAYS ends up being found by the psyco involved EVEN under “gun control”………. there is NO where logical left to go from HERE but to the schools them selves and HOW they funtion ,every OTHER potential cause can be discounted one way or another in comparng the isue to other systems on the planet and when you get to the swiss the whole thing becomes undeniable and we need to face up to THAT and do what is right for the kidds
the JTG short AGIAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEWPbTad_Q
the short IS good BUT ms. S. Herbert soon to be mrs. kizer if your planing on having children you OWE it to them to take the 5 + hrs to wach the full interveiw (please im beggng) i may not agree wth you even 30% of the time but that dont mean i dont like you all and think this site is importent so PLEASE wach it. it mght not be what you want to hear but it is REAL and these people back it all up wth refrences to mainly the elites own sociopathc rantngs, lots or refrences to caroll quigly and his book among and lots more gong clear back through the entire evolution from the fabians and back even to what went wrong wtih prussia that resulted in germanys formaton and even discus the SORCHA FAAL phenom. here and there( 5+hrs of it)and HOW one can defend your mind from it, it’s called critical thought, and your correct there is far to little of it going on even among those who feel they have ‘woken up to realty” so to speak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8
@stacy. Thankyou for putting the record straight. I visit this site just about every day in order to get some truth and perspective on the stuff we are generally fed by the MSM, and I worry that the trust I have invested in the KR will have proven foolish if it turns out to be just another sensationalist conspiracy theory rantfest. Keep up the great work and let’s keep it real.
kdt,
Glad to see I’m not the only one making a bunch of typos;)
I like your post anyway.
Here try this link below I found on this website.
I agree with a lot of it & their efforts to organize the citizens to combat against the American hating Wallst/London Banking trash.
You might like it.
http://www.defendruralamerica.com/DRA/Home.html
http://www.defendruralamerica.com/DRA/Home.html
Stacey . .your reaction . I think your thong is on too tight .. lighten up Francis. Maybe the connection is bankers produce fucked up kids and that is the only connection between the Colorado shooter and Lanza.
I suspect Alex Jones wrote this story….
@Jord . .dead on dude.. you got it right.
KDT. Thank you for links to Gatto. He makes so much sense.
i wish stacy had done this before i mentioned it at the office. and it turned in to a big amazing conversation. wonder if i can not mention it again and everybody just forgets… it doesnt help that ive had coca cola today which everybody knows is an illuminati serum that screws with your mind duuuuuude.
Here’s another one for all you smug know-it-all piss-ants.
http://bit.ly/RAz7BS
@Nathan el Corochio – sorry, but I was sleeping when it was posted and then went straight to studio and didn’t see it til later
@Alden – no way, not on this; Libor is the biggest conspiracy and crime I have ever seen in the past ten years of reporting; it is genuinely a mega global crime with thousands of pieces of email evidence, so to try to turn it into a circus freak show of loonies trying to make it about a mass killing in America makes the general audience who ought to care about Libor turn away instead; I suspect that this is why Sorcha put out this hoax in the first place
@ “Alden | December 17, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
@Jord . .dead on dude.. you got it right.”
yup.
the weird thing is people and humanity as it is. we are
symbolic creatures based on story line and feeling and we have
drugs to alter feeling and fragmented stories that need resolution
for some “reason”? the drugs are selected to alter the feeling but they
do not alter the story line of dissonance. get that, the drugs can make
the feeling go away, turn out well, while the story line, narrative, can linger.
linger and grow, bubble into a full blown delusion !
the drug can actually enhance the power of the narrative by masking or
converting the pain to pleasure and there is lotsa’ money in it.
so you can see how truth is stranger than fiction,
and sometimes it takes fiction to reveal the truth or art is the lie
that reveals the truth, or i have a degree from m.s.u., oh , what does that
stand for? i “make shit up” ! and look around you. everything you see
or think you see was “made up” by some one at some point in time.
their bequeathment and your inheritance ! consciousness, our beguilement!
( there is a link to this provided else where or in the future maybe ,
that is i heard it or something like it from someone somewhere )
but these finance fuckers are so insecure that they must delude themselves
and their families that they created the value, self made and reality realty
is their special claim to dominance and it is the system so….. but it is
a lie. kids can see it, the world is just too big in their eyes. i digress.
this story is on one level a hoax but on another level it is spot on as
no factual story will ever be. perhaps, if you believe in the power of
fiction and literature? here a link.
Monday December 17 3:00pm
2 hours Public Affairs, talk back
http://archive.wbai.org/#ankor2
.
1:04 minute. forensic psychologist steven teece ? and hugh hamilton.
and much more …..so slow down
.
there is something that the elders knew concerning the “world”
and “reality” but did not openly state
that the current adults never suspected or learned, this my suspicion,
yet it was communicated in music and art profusely.
perhaps that is the exclusive domain of these truths for logistical
reasons?
. need a link?
http://www.thepositivemind.com/tpm/index.php
I think most of us checked it up for ourselves after a second thought- only the third link had some façade of sourced information. It somehow seemed legit to me and it was not. End of story. It was weird to be misguided on this site, though, so I understand Stacey’s reaction, for I guess it is her who is responsible for the blog publishing.
You know, it’s always possible that the person who dreamed this up, really believes it. Hell, if Charles Manson really believed that the Beatles were talking to him in their albums, who knows? If one is truly paranoid, they can (a) devise a fantasy like this (b) believe it (c) be intense enough about it to get other to believe it.
Well done Stacey, keep it serious here!
I only point this out, because I once fell victim to this mistake, too. It’s Stacy, without an E. I just don’t want people to embarrass themselves, for as long as I did.
@ Spaniard Loved Satyricon.
…” if it is information you want you can get it from
the police.” b.d.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_vsaOeaJJU
Bob Dylan – Summer Days
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this one is real good !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSN1ZD1geE0
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Summer days, summer nights are gone
Summer days and the summer nights are gone
I know a place where there’s still somethin’ going on
I got a house on a hill, I got hogs all out in the mud
I got a house on a hill, I got hogs out lying in the mud
Got a long-haired woman, she got royal Indian blood
Everybody get ready—lift your glasses and sing
Everybody get ready to lift your glasses and sing
Well, I’m standin’ on the table, I’m proposing a toast to the King
Well I’m drivin’ in the flats in a Cadillac car
The girls all say, “You’re a worn-out star”
My pockets are loaded and I’m spending every dime
How can you say you love someone else when you know it’s me all the time?
Well, the fog’s so thick you can’t spy the land
The fog is so thick that you can’t even spy the land
What good are you anyway, if you can’t stand up to some old businessman?
Wedding bells ringin’, the choir is beginning to sing
Yes, the wedding bells are ringing and the choir is beginning to sing
What looks good in the day, at night is another thing
She’s looking into my eyes, she’s holding my hand
She’s looking into my eyes, she’s holding my hand
She says, “You can’t repeat the past.” I say, “You can’t? What do you mean,
you can’t? Of course you can.”
Where do you come from? Where do you go?
Sorry that’s nothin’ you would need to know
Well, my back has been to the wall for so long, it seems like it’s stuck
Why don’t you break my heart one more time just for good luck
I got eight carburetors, boys I’m using ’em all
Well, I got eight carburetors and boys, I’m using ’em all
I’m short on gas, my motor’s starting to stall
My dogs are barking, there must be someone around
My dogs are barking, there must be someone around
I got my hammer ringin’, pretty baby, but the nails ain’t goin’ down
You got something to say, speak or hold your peace
Well, you got something to say, speak now or hold your peace
If it’s information you want you can go get it from the police
Politician got on his jogging shoes
He must be running for office, got no time to lose
He been suckin’ the blood out of the genius of generosity
You been rolling your eyes—you been teasing me
Standing by God’s river, my soul is beginnin’ to shake
Standing by God’s river, my soul is beginnin’ to shake
I’m countin’ on you love, to give me a break
Well, I’m leaving in the morning as soon as the dark clouds lift
Yes, I’m leaving in the morning just as soon as the dark clouds lift
Gonna break the roof in—set fire to the place as a parting gift
Summer days, summer nights are gone
Summer days, summer nights are gone
I know a place where there’s still somethin’ going on
Copyright © 2001 by Special Rider Music
Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/summer-days#ixzz2FMZHO49K
@oky1 TY that actually made me feel slghtly better, hopefull even.
Defend Rural America event October 22, 2011 in Yreka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4RuWK2Ww-4
Tony DeMeo, Sheriff of Nye County, Nevada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoYtnoFn09Y
Believe Nothing You Hear And Half Of What You See.
jischinger: dont you know blythe masters comes to bad journalists at night and takes their silver… naughty!! lol
how do you know it’s not disinfo about disinfo?
how hard would it be!?
@ Jarrolin. I am really glad you liked it. Rats, I typed Stacy’s name wrong too.
I looked up that Sorcha’s profile and I found all sorts of lucubration about the identity behind. It seems it is a lad in Ireland who impersonates a russian scientist. He finances himself selling tickets to american conspiranoids of a show that never takes place. Instead, they get a DVD packed with disinformation diarrhea and a sorry note with some explanations on visas and migration issues that prevented him (sometimes her) from giving that very lecture on conspiracies. Some users at a abovetopsecret.com think he works for a russian agency, which would make sort of sense. However that may be, his online activities are well sourced and tracked, and there are plenty of stories like this that spring from Sorcha’s profile. Look out and remember to cross ref.
Excellent work, Stacey!
THANK YOU. I tried and tried to chase this down to a credible source, found the same thing you did, it always went back to a rumor.
I have been questioning this since Aurora. There is no hard evidence.
Still, I find it unfortunately interesting that the last two massacres were allegedly committed by kids of high level financial types. It looks possible that “the establishment” itself may be having internal battles, which are spilling out into the public domain (in the US) in a bloody way.
@Stacey
Hi Stacey,
As you are aware, I was the first to quote Sucha Fools article and am hopping mad as that is the second time I’ve been caught out by her. I got the quote from a commenter at Z’Hedge and then dropped it here without comment just before leaving.
I am sorry that I got sucked in and do appologise to people here for doing so.
It’s incredible how quickly an untruth like that can spread on the internet just as you have noted. Not unlike the howler that guns kill people when it is really the sick person behind the trigger that does the killing. Truely, nobody dies violently unless someone first commits murder in their heart.
So I do indeed appologise for spreading untruth but you started it.
@Terry what is the truth, will we ever know, but the question is why the rumor and linkage to Libor, who wants to stir that pot, they wanted it to die from the interwebz.
So who was ADAM?
See how the demonization of the dead patsy works:
New details emerge on private lives of school gunman Adam Lanza and his mother
Ellen Adriani and Russell Hanoman, both of whom said they were close friends of Nancy Lanza’s, said the 52-year-old single mother was devoted to her youngest son, whom they described as intelligent, mild-mannered and socially awkward. He also had an aversion to human contact, they said.
Adriani, who never met Adam, said Nancy Lanza told her of a time when Adam was ill while he was in high school and didn’t want her to enter his bedroom.
“But yet he still wanted Nancy there for him, so she camped out all night outside his bedroom door,” she said. “Periodically through the evening, he would ask her, ‘Are you there? Are you still there?’ and she’d be, ‘I’m here. I’m here.’ So he needed to have that security that she was there but not in his space.”
Hanoman also remembered Nancy Lanza as a devoted mother.
“Everything that she did in life … was devoted to making sure that he was taken care of,” he said.
Adam Lanza also was “an organic vegan” with a conservative worldview, he said.
“He was actually politically aware for a teenager,” he said. “… He was always very free-market economics and capitalism, as I think most people are in this country.”
In addition to his technological and weapons prowess, Adam Lanza was an excellent dancer – at least within the confines of the Dance Dance Revolution video game.
“It’s an arcade game as well as on the home systems where you basically dance around to a pattern on the screen,” Hanoman said. “And he was extremely good at it. He would often accumulate an audience of people around watching him…. (But) because it’s a two-player game … if anyone tried to come on the platform with him, no matter what he was doing, he would just turn around and walk out of the arcade.”
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/201…his-mother
It was a shared love of live music that sparked a close friendship between Russ Hanoman and Nancy Lanza more than five years ago. Now, in light of the tragedy at Sandy Hook and recent reports suggesting she was a paranoid survivalist, Hanoman is speaking publicly about the woman he knew. As he told PIX 11, “She was a wonderful, beautiful, elegant woman who loved life, and most importantly she loved her son, Adam.”
Another small detail emerged in the course of the interview, this time about Adam Lanza.
Lanza was vegan, according to Hanoman, because he “didn’t want to hurt animals.”
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/adam_lanza_was_a_vegan/
Louise recalled Nancy starting a conversation with her, and how they become fast friends.
“She’s funny. We took to her,” said Mark Tambascio. “She did a lot in town and was always on the go.”
Louise Tambascio said Nancy Lanza worked in charities for people with AIDS, and said she was extremely generous.
Louise saw Nancy Lanza take out her checkbook and write checks to anyone who told her they were going through a rough time and needed money.
“She was very kind,” Louise said.
Lanza was generally in a good mood, several people said.
“Every time I saw her, she was so giddy and happy,” said Amanda D’Ambrose, 23, Alan Diaz’s sister.
D’Ambrose also knew Adam, and knew that Nancy owned guns.
“She was very responsible. She transported them safely. It wasn’t something she boasted about,” D’Ambrose told CNN.
(but this same article claims some landscaper said she did just that – showing off her guns to him)
Police Chief Donald Briggs Jr. said he, too, knew Nancy Lanza.
“She was a great person who would do anything for you, a heart of gold,” he told the Union Leader newspaper.
“She was just a real, real nice, nice person.”
Alan Diaz keeps asking the same question everyone is: How could this person he knew, who seemed a little off, kill children?
“You know,” he began, “in the media, the person who does (these) things is seen as just evil. But I’ve thought for a long time: What about the people who knew them? What about the friends?”
“They knew them as a person. And now, being in that situation, it is very strange,” Diaz said. “I knew this kid and there was no sign ever that he could hurt another person.”
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connect…index.html
So, she was a good mom and kind person who loved her son and he wanted his mom near him even though, like a lot of Aspie kids, he didn’t like people touching him or in his space. We are supposed to believe this kid who was close to his mom gave her a double tap (two shots to the head), which is a sign of a trained assassin or a cop (and I learned that FROM a cop). Additionally, we’re supposed to believe that this kid who was conscientious and committed enough to be a vegan, because he didn’t want to harm animals, ruthlessly killed 5 and 6 year olds. We’re supposed to believe that a tech club kid who loved to play online dancing was a violent video game fanatic. Other articles have described Nancy Lanza as rigid and controlling while that is far from what people who knew her have said. Same on her being a “prepper” waiting for the world to end, with her guns at the ready for armageddon.
Now, check this out:
Quoting a ‘family insider,’ the New York Daily News reported that Adam was a ‘deeply disturbed kid’ who ‘certainly had major issues’ and was ‘subject to outbursts.’
Lanza’s aunt, Marsha Lanza, said her nephew was raised by kind, nurturing parents who would not have hesitated to seek mental help for him if he needed it.
Marsha Lanza described Nancy Lanza as a good mother and kind-hearted. If her son had needed counseling, ‘Nancy wasn’t one to deny reality,’ she said.
Marsha Lanza said her husband saw Adam as recently as June and recalled nothing out of the ordinary about him.
However, another relative to the family said that Adam Lanza was ‘obviously not well,’ adding that he often seemed troubled. They described Nancy as being rigid and at times, overbearing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-…ntary.html
Notice that the negative comments come from unnamed sources, while named sources who knew them said very nice things. That’s psyops character assassination with the unnamed sources, who probably don’t even exist.
The British propaganda is always the best. Check out the language:
‘Never turn your back on Adam’: Nancy Lanza’s chilling instructions to babysitter before he watched ‘gifted killer who could not feel physical pain’
(yet, while the title uses the ellipse quotes, nowhere in the article does ANYONE make an insane remark about being a “gifted killer” – who the fuck would say such a thing? Oh, some government psyop writer implanted in the media, that’s who)
Then, just look some more from this piece and noticed what is sourced and what isn’t and how the innocuous or nice stuff is sourced, while the dark stuff comes from ANONYMOUS sources:
Not long before the shooting at Sandy Hook, Nancy Lanza expressed concerns that her troubled young son was spiraling out of control.
An anonymous friend said Nancy had confided he was ‘getting worse’ over craft beers just days before the shooting.
‘I don’t know. I’m worried I’m losing him,’ the friend quoted her as saying.
The friend added that Nancy believed her son was hurting himself.
‘Nancy told me he was burning himself with a lighter. In the ankles or arms or something,’ he recalled of a conversation they had roughly one year ago. ‘It was like he was trying to feel something.’
‘I asked her if she was getting him help and she said she was,’ the friend recalled.
It has also been reported that Nancy had decided to move to Washington State or North Carolina so that Adam could attend a college in another state.
Nancy had recently been considering moving Adam to Washington state, said Mark Tambascio, a restaurant proprietor and close family friend, because she had discovered a school she thought would be good for him.
‘They were going to move out there together,’ he told the Washington Post. ‘She was willing to uproot her. Nancy pretty much made it clear that she needed to be with him [Adam] because he couldn’t handle being on his own.
Love and gratitude Vonda
Hi Stacy, don’t be so sure that this is disinformation. I tried to do some background checking on these claims. According to many news reports, there were already Senate Committe hearings on LIBOR in July. Many easily Googled stories include direct quotes from Tim Geithner regarding LIBOR on 7/25 and 7/23/12. However go to the Senate Banking Committe website and there is no archive of any such hearing. In fact on the first day the hearing allegedly took place, 7/25/12 they have no hearing archived. On 7/26, allegedly the second day of this hearing, they list a totally different hearing as having taken place. Guess who the sole witness was? Tim Geithner. Yet the entire transcript of his testimony doesn’t contain a single instance of the word LIBOR. Despite a worldwide archive of many news stories quoting Geithner’s testimony on LIBOR on both 7/25 and 7/26. How?
If there is no conspiracy here, then what is behind this glaring inconsistency? I wouldn’t close the book on this yet. A conspiracy like this would obviously involve a lot of covering tracks. What else can you call this?
Sorry that” 7/23/12″ should be “7/26/12″
@Vonda
Thanxs for that information, the idea that the authorities will take over and control/manage information getting to the public is very disturbing. As you point out there is a vast difference between those who knew the family and annonymous sources….. so vast one can’t help but suspect an agenda. In a time when people are rejecting authority because they suspect politicians have an agenda different to that stated requires sunshine and openess to promote confidence. These tragedies, if indeed they are real, belong to the community as they are the ones who will make the adjustments to policing and management of victims and perpetrators. The PTB continue to enforce more authoritarian rule forcing change promoted by assets remote from the scene of change. This authoritarian overlording makes me personally sick as the community needs involvement and that can only come from identification as having all been victims of a crime. The idea of B Obama crying tears over strangers is rediculous no modern politician looks on the community with human eyes they see us as bugs to be monitored polled and manipulated…….perhaps if they were registered democrat voters. I mean, the man has overseen the murder of thousands.
Expertism is ok when we employ it as a tool and a monster when it forces its way into public debate demanding not just to be heard but shouting down legitimate voices impacted directly by the issues at hand. People really need to learn how to shut these experts up and drive them from the debate when they assert there superiority. They need to be shouted down and their propensity to invade the private domain punished.
The population in the west highly educated perhaps not formlly educated but they have been exposed to a raft of ideas and concepts not even considered by earlier generation simply through exposure to TV. The elite don’t recognise this exposure to the mentioned concepts as enlightening because they percieve it as monkey training that they control. What they do not see is that many are able to consider the ideas presented but reject the offered conclusions. The foolish king is surrounded by liars and the wicked have limited human resources from which to draw, a lack of talent if you will so, they make mistakes.
I don’t know any more than what I can glean from the meedja and internet…BUT…. something ain’t right here.
I can ‘feel ‘ it. When a story ‘evolves’ and changes from hour to hour I get nervous.
Don’t forget, I’m old enough to remember Dunblane.
Dunblane was an evil act. The records of which have been sealed for 100 years. How strange is that? Got a gun ban over here though. So it worked.
Since when does a medical examiner who has been autopsying infants all night get to be so ‘chipper’ in the morning?
And since when do little girls whose sister has just been MURDERED sit happily on a stranger’s ( Obama) lap, smiling like it’s Christmas? The story stinks, Max & Tracy.
xxxx I’m a huge fan by the way. But this story is slightly ‘whiffy’.